Mac Mini 2011 with 2gb ram. So yes I can upgrade it, I just don't have much in the way of income at the moment. Long story short, I should be paid sometime soon, and I'd love to use some of the money on more ram. Part of the problem is that I don't know what ram to get; I looked on Newegg.com, but all the mac-compatible ram specified iMac/Macbook, nothing about the Mini. On Jan 18, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yup, with memory that low your probably thrashing memory in and out of your > hard drive, which is magnitudes slower than ream RAM. What kind of machine do > you have? Can you upgrade the RAM? > > CB > > On 1/18/13 10:52 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >> Thanks. I had already looked at top's man page, but navigating it seemed >> tricky and buggy with vo. Either way, I'll have to keep that command you >> suggested in a bash script somewhere easily accessible. I know I'm swapping >> out information all the time, as my hard drive is working more often than >> not and my free memory is very low (right now it's between 16 and 17mb - >> yes, megabytes). >> On Jan 18, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Ahh, that's right. You were more concerned with RAM than CPU. If you're low >>> on RAM then the system will start swapping memory onto and off of your hard >>> drive which can bring everything to a crawl. Anyway, I first discovered >>> that running top only one time seems to always give 0% for CPU so I changed >>> to do a couple samples. I guess the first try must be buggy: >>> >>> top -ncols 3 -l5 -n5 >>> >>> This now runs top 5 times and I just review the last run. Back to the >>> memory usage, it gets complicated because there is all this real and >>> virtual memory stuff, plus a single process's memory chunks could be >>> scattered all over so it takes top a bit of work to total things up, >>> sometimes making top the highest CPU user on an otherwise idle system. >>> Anyway, if you navigate up past the PID COMMAND %CPU row you'll come across >>> a line like this: >>> >>> PhysMem: 776M wired, 2138M active, 616M inactive, 3531M used, 435M free. >>> >>> The wired+active numbers are usually what's reported as memory in use while >>> the free+inactive numbers are considered available. So on my 4GB laptop I >>> have about 3GB used and 1GB free, which is pretty healthy. I'd check that >>> on yours. If you're pushing 10% free or less you're probably swapping. So >>> you could do something like this: >>> >>> top -n5 -l3 -stats cpu,command,rsize,vsize -o rsize >>> >>> This displays the top 5 processes by resident memory size. For me it was >>> something like this: >>> >>> %CPU COMMAND RSIZE VSIZE >>> 7.7 kernel_task 401M 5066M >>> 0.0 mds 217M 4300M >>> 0.0 Safari 175M 3808M >>> 0.0 WebProcess 125M 3636M >>> 0.0 Finder 111M 3771M >>> >>> You can find out more about any terminal command, like top, by typing 'man' >>> followed by the command. So 'man top' will give you more details about all >>> the parameters than you'll want to know. >>> >>> CB >>> >>> On 1/18/13 10:14 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>> That's a useful command, thanks. I can't seem to get the top processes >>>> though, at least not according to processor load or ram usage. The five it >>>> showed me were using 0% CPU and I know they don't take up much ram at >>>> all... >>>> On Jan 18, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Chris Blouch <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I couldn't seem to get the columns to sort either but you could always >>>>> use 'top' from the terminal. Just type (or copy paste) the command like >>>>> this: >>>>> >>>>> top -ncols 3 -l1 -n5 >>>>> >>>>> ncols tells it to only give the first three columns which is the >>>>> processID, process name and %CPU. The l1 means to sample just once. You >>>>> can change the number to do it over and over if you want. The n5 means to >>>>> show just the top 5 processes. If you want the top 10 just change the 5 >>>>> to 10. >>>>> >>>>> CB >>>>> >>>>> On 1/18/13 2:58 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>>>>> How odd, >>>>>> >>>>>> You would think that sorting command would work in such a table. But on >>>>>> my machine too, it doesn't seem to work. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I know I have low ram, but the question stands: can you sort process >>>>>>> lists by CPU usage or ram? I tried the vo-shift-backslash command and >>>>>>> was taken to the headers list, but activating the buttons there did not >>>>>>> seem to do anything at all. Is there any way to do this? >>>>>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 10:48 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I had a similar problem with my macbook when I installed mountain >>>>>>>> lion. I upgraded to 4 gigabytes of ram and that took care of the >>>>>>>> problem. I rarely ever get the "busy" notice, and when I do, it lasts >>>>>>>> for a brief time and then everything works fine. >>>>>>>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> Every time I start my mac (2011 Mini with 2gb ram and 10.8), it is >>>>>>>>> sluggish for at least ten to fifteen minutes. Eventually things calm >>>>>>>>> down, provided I stay within three or four apps, but for those first >>>>>>>>> minutes everything is slow and busy more often than not. Is there a >>>>>>>>> way I can use Activity Monitor to see which apps and/or processes are >>>>>>>>> taking up the mac's resources, such as CPU time or ram? 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