Hey Barry,

thanks a lot for your info. As you mentioned, there's still a lot to do for 
Apple. But this little work around with tables helps me a lot. Great you 
brought it up.

All the best
Jürgen


Am 26.01.2013 um 20:20 schrieb Barry Hadder <[email protected]>:

> Hey Jürgen,
> 
> unfortunately, I don't know of a way to make all objects imbedded in a 
> document behave that way.  That is really just an alternative work-around to 
> copying and pasting a table to numbers.  I think that there are still a lot 
> of problems when it comes to collaborating with others using MS office.  
> Aside from the fact that imbedded objects are for all intents and purposes 
> invisible to vo, so are auto bullets and numbers.
> 
> I've written to Apple accessibility, sent pages feedback from the pages menu, 
> and through the bug report form available to members of an Apple developer 
> program.  I haven't seen any change nor received any response in four years.
> 
> Some years ago, I gave up on word processors and started using something 
> called latex.  I realize that it isn't for everyone and every situation, but 
> I thought I might throw it out hear for anyone who might be interested.  I 
> can say that I've had great success with it, but the learning curve is steep. 
>  You can read about it at:  http://www.andy-roberts.net/writing/latex.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
>               Barry Hadder
> [email protected]
> https://twitter.com/BarryHadder
> UnitMaster
> Available in the Mac app store.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:30 AM, Jürgen Fleger <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Christa, Barry and all,
> that's correct. Thanks for the input.
> Another question to this: At the moment it seems that I have to find the 
> tables in a document manually, highlight them and open the director and so 
> on. Is this correct or is there a way to let Pages show up tables 
> automatically as an element in the layout area?
> Thanks and all the best
> Jürgen
> 
> Am 26.01.2013 um 12:49 schrieb Krister Ekstrom <[email protected]>:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Correct me if i'm wrong here, but the german and the Swedish version seems 
>> to be a bit similar. Line break is the Swedish name for word wrap, and 
>> that's what i suspect this is about.
>> Does this make sence?
>> /Krister
>> 
>> 25 jan 2013 kl. 22:02 skrev Barry Hadder <[email protected]>:
>> 
>>> Hey,
>>> 
>>> There seems to be a couple of differences between your version and mine.  I 
>>> don't have line, and I have rap right before text.  You seem to have 
>>> something called brak.  I have no idea what that is, so The only thing I 
>>> can suggest is to try that tab.
>>> Let me know if that works.  I'm really curious about this.
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>>             Barry Hadder
>>> [email protected]
>>> https://twitter.com/BarryHadder
>>> 
>>> UnitMaster
>>> Available in the Mac app store.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Jürgen Fleger <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Barry,
>>> 
>>> that sounds great. Unfortunately I use a german version of Pages and I 
>>> don't know how to find "rap" because I don't know what it means.
>>> 
>>> Could you please help me to find it?
>>> If I open the Inspector by pressing CMD + Option + i I find the following 
>>> tabs from left to right:
>>> Document, Layout, line brak, Text, Graphic, Size, Table, Diagramm, Link, 
>>> Quicktime
>>> Could you tell me what tab you were talking about? So, what number of the 
>>> tab counted from the left?
>>> 
>>> Thanks and all the best
>>> Jürgen
>>> 
>>> Am 25.01.2013 um 18:53 schrieb Barry Hadder <[email protected]>:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Rather than copy the table to Numbers, You can go to the inspector and 
>>>> select rap. Then, in the object placement section choose floating.
>>>> 
>>>> When you do that, the table can be seen by Voiceover in the layout area.  
>>>> You can interact with it as you would any other table.
>>>> 
>>>>            Barry Hadder
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> https://twitter.com/BarryHadder
>>>> UnitMaster
>>>> Available in the Mac app store.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 25, 2013, at 7:59 AM, Anne Robertson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Annie,
>>>> 
>>>> To copy a table from Pages to Numbers, open a blank spreadsheet in 
>>>> Numbers, select the table in Pages (VO will just report a highlighted 
>>>> space but Cmd-c will copy the table), then paste the item into the blank 
>>>> spreadsheet.
>>>> 
>>>> Once the information has been entered, select the portion of the table you 
>>>> wish to copy back into Pages and copy it to the clipboard. In Pages, paste 
>>>> the table into the space it came from.
>>>> 
>>>> You can use the Convert table to text menu item to check that everything 
>>>> has been copied correctly then use Cmd-z to undo that action.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Anne
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 25 Jan 2013, at 13:39, Annie Skov Nielsen <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Anne.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you for your suggestion.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It was exactly the way I thought of doing it, but I could not find out 
>>>>> how to setup numbers, I can create a new document.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But how can I add the table?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I simply open the table in pages as the first step, when I mark the 
>>>>> table, how do I get it pasted in numbers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The reason why I am bringing this up, is that here in Denmark, it is 1 of 
>>>>> the main reasons not to recommend mac. It makes me a little sad, because 
>>>>> mac can do so much, and it is so fun to work with mac as I experience it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards Annie.
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