I'd rather not do that, as sometimes I have things from other apps which pop up 
on the screen that I need to be able to know about fairly quickly.

Chris.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Maria & Joe Chapman 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 4:26 PM
  Subject: Re: Extremely irritating problem when playing DVD's.


  Hi.  this wouldn't really bother me as I use a pair of usb headphones and 
have voice over going through them and other stuff going through the speakers.  
I just take the headphones off if I'm listening to something like a dvd.  Could 
you not just turn vo off and then turn it back on if you need to navigate?


  Just some thoughts.


  take care.




  Maria Chapman
  [email protected]


  "The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong." - 
Mahatma Gandhi 


  On 24/03/2013, at 1:34 AM, "Chris Gilland" <[email protected]> wrote:


    OK, guilty as charged, I confess, I've been using a mac now for over a year 
and a half, and only now have tried playing a DVD with the native DVD player 
app.  I absolutely love it!  Talk about accessible!  Holy Cow!  the only issue 
is that I have it set where once my DVD starts playing, I hit command+control+F 
to enter full screen mode.  I do this so that I can see the movie over the 
entire screen and not just a small little portion.  The issue is however, when 
I enter full screen mode, Voiceover keeps saying DVD Player has new window.  It 
keeps doing that every few seconds.  OK, yeah, I could set up a key map, being 
this is a mac mini, so I can't do track pad commander, which would let me 
toggle muting and unmuting of speech, and sure, I could even set up an activity 
for DVD Player to mute speech entirely when the app is opened, but that defeats 
the whole purpose, as sometimes I may want access to the player interface so I 
can navigate the menu bar etc. So really, though those options definitely would 
work, don't get me wrong, they seem a bit extreme.  I just wonder why in the 
first place, it thinks there is a new window.  No, it isn't doing it every time 
the screen visually moves from one frame/scene to another.  It seems to be 
doing it more on a fix timeframe, like, say... oh?... I dono,... maybe like, 
every say... 5 seconds or so.  It's really! really! irritating!

    I suppose I could use VLC, but is that really necessary?  Has anyone up 
here had any luck with the default DVD Player.app native app that comes with 
OSX? If so, how'd you get rid of that message?  I remember this being an issue 
very vaguely in Snowleopard, but I'd think they would have fixed it by now, in 
Mountain Lion.  If I dont' wanna use this app, nor VLC, are there any other DVD 
players I can get that're freeware, that will work?

    I'll wait to hear what you all have to suggest, but I'm wonderring if an 
e-mail up to Apple Accessibility may be in order here.

    Chris. 
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