That does indeed seem to have done it, thanks! I'll still be reporting this, since low-vision users may wish to have vo follow the mouse, and so this is still a problem. For me it is fixed since I never use a mouse, but I can see it being problematic for some users. Thanks for the tip, and for all the ideas everyone! On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:36 AM, Steve Holmes <[email protected]> wrote:
> I fixed it ! At least I think I have so far. The question of dealing with the > mouse pointer was the key. When I went into the VO utilities menu, I came > across the mouse pointer heading; the next option is a popup menu. I changed > it to Ignore; it had been set to Follow or something. I'm not sure when or > how this changed but it seems all good now. > > So thanks for all the ideas and conversation. Chris, thanks for the extended > debugging suggestions; that will be good reference in the future. These > cursor and pointer tracking options can be confusing but do offer great > flexibility when goofy apps may come into the mix. > > On Apr 22, 2013, at 4:41 AM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > >> My cursors all chase each other, and the mouse pointer moves the vo cursor. >> Again, though, I use a Mini so I'm not even touching my mouse when I type. I >> have not yet tried making a new account... >> On Apr 22, 2013, at 4:31 AM, Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> How do you have your cursors set up in Voiceover utilities? For example, >>> do you have your mouse pointer set to move voiceover cursor? >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> [email protected] >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Apr 21, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Steve Holmes <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I just looked over at my magic trackpad and flicked around a bit to be >>>> sure it wasn't pressed down or stuck or something. All is fine there but I >>>> still hear "Apple submenu" if I go into rename a file and hit space and/or >>>> arrow around without interacting first. I think I will give Apple a call >>>> tomorrow and see if anyone there can give me some ideas. Probably have to >>>> check with the a11y folks as this has no meaning if VO is turned off and >>>> not being used. >>>> >>>> On Apr 21, 2013, at 2:20 PM, "Chris Gilland" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> That's the only thing I even remotely could think of, Harry. >>>>> >>>>> Chris. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Hogue" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:35 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: Apple Submenu >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Could it simply be caused by inadvertently moving the mouse pointer on >>>>> the trackpad? >>>>> >>>>> Just a thought. >>>>> >>>>> Harry >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 21, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Kerri <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello. I run across this when I'm reading a long document line by line. >>>>>> On 2013-04-20, at 11:26 PM, Steve Holmes <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've been noticing for the past couple months or so, my machine saying >>>>>>> "Apple submenu" every time I move the cursor around or type individual >>>>>>> characters in simple edit boxes. Example: highlight a file in Finder >>>>>>> and then hit the return key to rename it. then start typing the new >>>>>>> name or cursor around in there to edit wherever. Do not interact with >>>>>>> this edit control yet. For me, I keep hearing that phrase every time I >>>>>>> move the cursor or type. Now if I interact then it stops doing that. I >>>>>>> also get this in TextEdit if I don't interact there but that is >>>>>>> obviously a place where I would always want to interact. I've never had >>>>>>> this situation in the past; has anyone here experienced this? What >>>>>>> could be causing VO to keep saying "Apple submenu" I don't have any >>>>>>> menus forced open or any of that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for any ideas or help. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > Have a great day, Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) [email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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