Hey Tim, I hope I was doing what you wanted me to check, as when I moved around the desktop I had VO on the trackpad turned on. Was it also supposed to be off, as when I try and move the mailbox out of favorites I thought VO on the trackpad had to be off. Moving around the desktop and double tapping on a folder opens the folder just fine, no mention of the Apple menu like when trying to remove the mailbox out of favorites. Thanks. On May 30, 2013, at 5:10 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote:
> Brian, > > How does the trackpad behave when not in Mail? Try going to the Finder, > navigating to something located on your Desktop, make sure that the mouse > pointer is at the VO-Cursor location with VO-cmd-f5 then double-click on your > trackpad. Does it open the selected item or does it do the Apple menu thing > there to? > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On 2013-05-30, at 8:44 AM, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hey Tim, >> >> I did have safari open in the background. I have shut it quit mail, and >> toggled VO off and on, then relaunched mail, but even with safari closed >> can't seem to get the mouse down to remove the mailbox and the trackpad >> still seems to want to open the Apple menu. I am thinking it is somehow >> focusing on the Apple menu on the top of that menu bar that runs across >> mail. Thanks for all of your continued efforts, and I will continue plugging >> away here seeing if I can get it to work. Thanks again. >> On May 29, 2013, at 11:30 PM, Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Brian, >>> >>> By any chance, do you have Safari open behind Mail? The only time that >>> I've had VO bringing up that Apple menu thing was when focus supposedly was >>> somewhere on a web-page and VO wasn't tracking very cooperatively. If not, >>> let me know and I'll keep testing to see if I can duplicate this in Mail >>> for you. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On 2013-05-29, at 8:15 AM, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Thought you might be on to something about drafts, but I just cleared >>>> the folder out so there ar eno messages, and am still getting the same >>>> issues when I do the mouse down it opens some Apple menu and of course I >>>> can't even scroll through whatever Apple menu it is opening, so >>>> unfortunately that didn't do the trick. Thanks for the suggestion. >>>> On May 29, 2013, at 9:52 AM, Red.Falcon <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Brian! >>>>> I've been following this thread! >>>>> I've not done any of this myself but was wondering because you've >>>>> mentioned drafts! >>>>> That mailbox can appear and disappear so would it make a difference if >>>>> you have a drafted message in the box then tried to move it! >>>>> Only guessing! >>>>> Colin >>>>> >>>>> On 29 May 2013, at 13:58, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey guys, >>>>>> >>>>>> Must be some kind of a VO issue on my machine, as I followed all of your >>>>>> steps exactly from the F5 and sure enough the drafts mailbox was under >>>>>> the VO cursor the entire time. I also checked my settings per Tim's >>>>>> email and my navigation was properly set up per his suggestions. I am >>>>>> still getting an Apple menu to pop open when I push down on the trackpad >>>>>> over the drafts mailbox when trying to remove it from the favorites bar. >>>>>> I also tried using the VO command shift space bar but this jumps me in >>>>>> to the messages pane of the drafts folder, which is weird since I used >>>>>> that same command to remove the other mailbox successfully that I wanted >>>>>> out of favorites. So it is strange that the same command will not work a >>>>>> second time, but nothing ever shocks me when it comes to voiceover. So >>>>>> strange, and its not the end of the world if the drafts mailbox stays in >>>>>> the favorites, but obviously would be nice to get it out of there. >>>>>> >>>>>> And yes, Tim I had toggled VO off and on several times previous to your >>>>>> suggestion, as I usually find VO needs to reboot itself at least once a >>>>>> day for some reason some times. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again, and please do let me know if you think of anything else. >>>>>> On May 28, 2013, at 11:21 PM, Nicholas Parsons >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> HI, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Re getting rid of favourites: >>>>>>> • Do not use the VO-shift-space keystroke. As Tim said- >>>>>>> 1. Navigate to the mailbox you wish to remove; >>>>>>> 2. Make sure your TrackPad commander is off by holding >>>>>>> down the VO keys and rotating two fingers counter clockwise on the >>>>>>> TrackPad; >>>>>>> 3. Use VO-command-F5 to rout the mouse pointer to the VO >>>>>>> curser; >>>>>>> 4. Press VO-F5 to check that the mouse curser is on the >>>>>>> mailbox you wish to remove; >>>>>>> 5. If it's not, repeat steps 3 and 4 until it is; >>>>>>> 6. Press the TrackPad down into the click position and >>>>>>> hold it, then drag one finger from the top of the TrackPad to the >>>>>>> bottom and then release the TrackPad entirely. >>>>>>> 7. You should here a swooshing sound indicating that the >>>>>>> mailbox is no longer in your favourites bar. If you don't, repeat steps >>>>>>> 1 through 7. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Re the checkboxes in favourites bar, these simply display the relevant >>>>>>> mailbox. They should really be radio buttons instead of checkboxes, as >>>>>>> only one can be active/checked at the one time. So when you press >>>>>>> command-3, for example, the third mailbox will become checked and >>>>>>> active. If you then navigate to the favourites bar and check the fourth >>>>>>> mailbox, the view will change and your fourth mailbox will become >>>>>>> active and in view. This is how you can still use the favourites bar >>>>>>> even with more than 9 mailboxes. The first nine you can navigate to >>>>>>> with keystrokes, the rest you need to check manually. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Nic >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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