The voices are already there.  Just a matter of going in to your language 
settings and switching to Australian English.


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!

On Jun 15, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Chenelle Hancock <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Hello everyone! How do you download voices onto your iPhone I Wanna download 
> the Karen voice because I have my phone on Australian English severity of 
> girls to download the voices? Thank you
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 15/06/2013, at 5:27 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
>>   Today's Topic Summary
>> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics
>> 
>> 2 extremely frustrating problems - please help [4 Updates]
>> Fusion boot camp or parallel [3 Updates]
>> downloading or safari issue [3 Updates]
>> iTunes match [2 Updates]
>> Nightowl questions [2 Updates]
>> Deleting messages from the server when you delete from mial [5 Updates]
>> Another totally unrelated question [3 Updates]
>> what's the current state of firefox accessibility with the latest version of 
>> mac os10 [3 Updates]
>>  2 extremely frustrating problems - please help
>> Rahul Bajaj <[email protected]> Jun 16 02:03AM +0530  
>> 
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> I'm facing 2 weird and frustrating challenges while using Safari on my Mac.
>> 1. Sometimes, when I press command-l, instead of being directed to the 
>> address bar, I am directed to the downloads folder in Safari. Similarly, 
>> when I press M in Safari, it opens Apple Mail even when I am in Safari.
>> This gets automatically fixed when I restart my Mac a couple of times.
>> 2. Sometimes, when I use the keyboard to type something, instead of showing 
>> the letters that I type, it shows weird symbols like "Ó´".
>> Have I inadvertently enabled or disabled something?
>> I'm completely baffled. Please help.
>>  
>> Best,
>> Rahul
>>  
>> Maxwell Ivey <[email protected]> Jun 15 03:57PM -0500  
>> 
>> Hello; i think your option key may be sticking. because command option l is 
>> the key sequence for opening the downloads manager. hope that helps, max 
>> On Jun 15, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Rahul Bajaj wrote:
>>  
>>  
>> Maria & Joe Chapman <[email protected]> Jun 16 07:03AM +1000  
>> 
>> HI. yep i thought that too. 
>> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
>> Email/ I Message: &fb [email protected]
>> twitter: bubbygirl 
>> skype: bubbygirl1972
>>  
>> [email protected]
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>> Alex Hall <[email protected]> Jun 15 05:12PM -0400  
>> 
>> Me too. Option-cmd-l opens downloads; option-m, if you enabled the keyboard 
>> commander, opens mail; option with most characters types an alternate 
>> character, like option-8 for a bullet. So, check the physical key on your 
>> keyboard and be sure it is working correctly. If it is not a Macbook, you 
>> might want to replace the keyboard.
>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
>> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
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>>  
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> [email protected]
>>  
>>  Fusion boot camp or parallel
>> "zoe" <[email protected]> Jun 15 09:55AM -0400  
>> 
>> Ok guys, let's say paralel is out. if I go with fusion, am I to understand 
>> that I would not be able to boot windows up independedntly and use windows 
>> commands? I like the idea if sharing files and etc between windows and mac 
>> but I'm a little afraid of not being able to use windows independently,
>> Also excuse me I'm not familiar yet with all the mac terminology, but I 
>> think if I get the mac now it would come with mountain lion, but I think I 
>> read somewhere that something new is coming out in the fall, should I wait 
>> for the fall to get the newest out there or should I stick with the mountain 
>> lion and get it now? Also trying to make a desision between the mac mini 
>> and the beautiful looking 27 inch all in one base i mac and opinions there?
>>  
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Alex Hall" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 8:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: Fusion boot camp or parallel
>>  
>>  
>> My thoughts are that it depends. I used Bootcamp when I started with the 
>> Mac, and installed a boot manager that let me just hit w or m to boot into 
>> windows or mac. It was great, since I needed to know not a single mac 
>> command to use windows, whereas a virtual machine solution requires you to 
>> be able to at least launch it in mac first. That said, I had no official 
>> training so had to rely on this list and twitter to learn everything about 
>> the mac. Since I still needed to use my computer on a daily basis, and since 
>> the mac was my only machine, I felt that being able to use native windows 
>> would be the best solution for me, until I was either comfortable with the 
>> mac or decided it was not for me and stuck with only windows. Needless to 
>> say, I got used to the mac and now hardly ever boot windows, and am looking 
>> into replacing my bootcamp setup with a vm solution.
>>  
>> If you are close to an Apple Store, you could go in there and get help, 
>> especially in the first thirty days while your machine is still under 
>> warranty. So, since you have access to help, I think a virtual machine 
>> solution is better: no partitioning of the hard drive, not needing to shut 
>> down to do something in the other OS, and you can even run a vm of win7 and 
>> one of win8, or a linux distro, if you wanted to.
>>  
>> None of this is final, too - if you bootcamp now, you can also use a vm 
>> solution and erase your bootcamp later, or vice versa.
>>  
>> As to virtual machine applications, I have no information on Parallels, but 
>> I know Fusion is accessible. Virtualbox, another program, is not very 
>> accessible, but it can be used. However, I had sound problems when I tried 
>> to use it, so i'd stay away from that one. Really, Fusion seems the best 
>> option, unless (as another poster said) Parallels has been updated to be 
>> accessible.
>>  
>> Please don't hesitate to ask questions about the mac as you learn it. We are 
>> all here to help, and some of us are even happy to talk to you on the phone 
>> or skype if necessary.
>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
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>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> [email protected]
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>> Alex Hall <[email protected]> Jun 15 10:05AM -0400  
>> 
>> All Windows commands will work. The left control key is the only problem, 
>> since it switches you between mac and windows. So, you can alt-tab between 
>> windows programs, while command-tab (normally used to move between programs 
>> in the mac) will do nothing. Once you hit that control key, though, 
>> command-tab will move you between mac apps, letting you get focus off of 
>> windows and onto a mac program, which is the whole point of running a vm 
>> instead of bootcamp. I believe you can configure the key to be something 
>> other than control, but someone more experienced will have to comment on 
>> that.
>>  
>> Yes, OS10.9 Mavericks is coming in the fall. If you can stand to wait, 
>> holding off until it is released will save you the cost of upgrading 
>> (usually $20 to $30), though last year Apple gave free upgrades to those who 
>> bought Macs close to the Mountain Lion release date. Still, there is no 
>> telling when the date for that program is, assuming it happens at all.
>>  
>> I have Mac Mini and regret it - I'd so much rather have a laptop. That said, 
>> since you are choosing between a Mini and and iMac, it sounds like you only 
>> want a desktop solution. In that case, it depends on your vision and what 
>> you want to buy. The iMac has a large screen, so you only need a keyboard 
>> and mouse, whereas the Mini has no screen but is much smaller. This means 
>> you can hook the Mini to any monitor or TV you might have, and the actual 
>> tower will take up less room and cost less. If you rely on enlarged text as 
>> well as speech, the iMac might be good for you due to its large screen. If 
>> you need speech only, the Mini would be better since it is cheaper and you 
>> can just hook up a small monitor to it, taking up less space. Some Minis 
>> need a monitor connected, even if it is never on, or they slow down and 
>> become hard to use, which is why I did not say you could forego the monitor 
>> entirely. Besides, when sighted family or friends need to use the computer 
>> or help you should something happen to speech or your speakers, having a 
>> screen right there can be very helpful.
>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
>> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries.
>> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
>>  
>> Have a great day,
>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>> [email protected]
>>  
>> Maria & Joe Chapman <[email protected]> Jun 16 07:09AM +1000  
>> 
>> HI. yes you will be able to use windows independently. I have a mac mini but 
>> one day I hope to get a mac book pro or a mac book air.
>>  
>>  
>> regards
>> Maria and crew from australia
>> email:
>> [email protected]
>> check out 
>> www.95-the-mix.com
>> where we play lots of great music
>>  
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>>  
>>  downloading or safari issue
>> Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> Jun 15 10:01AM -0600  
>> 
>> Hmmm. I'm wondering if you use a different voice the the Apple supplied Alex?
>>  
>> Later...
>>  
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>  
>>  
>> Maria & Joe Chapman <[email protected]> Jun 16 06:58AM +1000  
>> 
>> HI. yes I was do you think that would make a difference?
>>  
>> regards
>> Maria and crew from australia
>> email:
>> [email protected]
>> check out 
>> www.95-the-mix.com
>> where we play lots of great music
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Maria & Joe Chapman <[email protected]> Jun 16 06:59AM +1000  
>> 
>> HI. I am using moira as the system voice and I think that's what cromevox 
>> would be using?
>> God Bless! Maria from australia
>> Newbie mac user.
>> [email protected]
>> will get you fb as well as email & iMessage. 
>> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl 
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>>  iTunes match
>> Sarai Bucciarelli <[email protected]> Jun 15 03:43PM -0500  
>> 
>> Hi:
>> Does anyone know if you can gift an iTunes match subscription?
>>  
>> Chris H <[email protected]> Jun 15 09:46PM +0100  
>> 
>> Don't think so I haven't seen the option to send it as a gift.
>>  
>>  
>> Chris
>>  
>> On 15/06/2013 21:43, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:
>>  
>>  Nightowl questions
>> Sarai Bucciarelli <[email protected]> Jun 15 12:02PM -0500  
>> 
>> Hi:
>> I'm coming from Syrinnx, and can't figure out some things in Night Owl. Here 
>> are my questions.
>> 1. How do you follow and unfollow someone?
>> 2. How do you block a follower?
>> 3. How do you open links when l doesn't work?
>> 4. How can I search Twitter? For example inn Syirnx, I used to be able to do 
>> a search for beach, and could see all tweets with that word in it.
>> Thanks,
>>  
>> Maria & Joe Chapman <[email protected]> Jun 16 06:46AM +1000  
>> 
>> Hi. to follow someone open a new tweet press f space followed by the at 
>> simbol and the user name you want to follow. YOu can also interact with the 
>> drawer and follow people and unfollow them that way. I also think you can 
>> open the menu and go in to tools where you can see following and followers. 
>> Sorry not sure how to block someone. to search command right arrow until you 
>> hear search. 
>>  
>> I hope this helps some.
>>  
>> 
>> Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly.
>> Email/ I Message: &fb [email protected]
>> twitter: bubbygirl 
>> skype: bubbygirl1972
>>  
>> [email protected]
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>>  Deleting messages from the server when you delete from mial
>> Timothy Emmons <[email protected]> Jun 15 12:25PM -0500  
>> 
>> Hi guys, I am curious about something and I couldn't find it in the setting 
>> sso I'll take any help I can get.How do you go about deleting messages from 
>> the server either ronde you delete in mail or once they're downloaded so 
>> they don't keep coming back. I'm running mountain lion, 10.84 I believe is 
>> the update )I meant 10.8.4 I think is the way that is) with mail 6.5 I've 
>> got an exchange server set up from work, and my gmail account is set up on 
>> iMap. Is iMap the reason you can't actually delete the mail, does it keep 
>> showing up or is there a way to get rid of it as you finsih and delete it. 
>> Just curious. I definitely need more coffee, I'm thinking it has to be that 
>> it's iMap but not sure. any help would be appreciated. Thanks guys. Take 
>> care and talk to you soon.
>>  
>> Sarai Bucciarelli <[email protected]> Jun 15 12:43PM -0500  
>> 
>> Hi Tim:
>> I have the same problems with my iMap Gmail account. I'm assuming in the 
>> mail settings on the mac you have delete from server checked? It is an issue 
>> on Gmail's side. Sometimes it helps to go in to the trash folder in mail and 
>> command a, then press shift delete.
>>  
>> Timothy Emmons <[email protected]> Jun 15 12:48PM -0500  
>> 
>> I think I do, I'll go double-check that, but I think I do. I'll go in an 
>> empty trash too and see if that helps get rid of the. Just thought iwas just 
>> me, Lol. Thanks for the suggestion. Stay cool, it's still a hot one over 
>> here, Lol. 
>>  
>> Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> Jun 15 12:37PM -0600  
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> Both Exchange and iMap do work in similar manners with respect to the 
>> reading and deleting of messages. That is, they will both usually mark 
>> messages as read on all units connected to the same account and similarly, 
>> if you delete a message when on one machine, it should show as deleted on 
>> the other machine.
>>  
>> On your Mac for your GMail account, go into Mail Preferences on the Mailbox 
>> Behaviours tab. Make sure that "Move Deleted Items to the Trash" and "Store 
>> Deleted Items on the Server" are both checked. The item right after that 
>> that pertains to how often to automatically remove items from the Trash used 
>> to be an issue between Apple and Google's way of dealing with Deleted 
>> messages. I'm fairly sure that this is still the case so, I tend to leave 
>> that on "Never" and let GMail do it's 30 day Archive thing all by itself.
>>  
>> Later...
>>  
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>  
>>  
>> Timothy Emmons <[email protected]> Jun 15 02:44PM -0500  
>> 
>> thanks got it. These past couple of things I have meant to find out before 
>> and have been a mac user for almost two years now, but it's one of those 
>> things where you don't think about it until you need it, so out of sight out 
>> of mind, Lol. Thanks again for your help. It makes life so much easier now 
>> that I'm not as stumped as I was, Lol. Take care. 
>>  
>>  Another totally unrelated question
>> Timothy Emmons <[email protected]> Jun 15 01:06PM -0500  
>> 
>> Thanks Sarai and folks for the answer on my mail. Got that straightened out. 
>> Now, I have one for you. See, I told you I would get coffee and find 
>> something else. How do you go about formatting a Usb drive, or Nls cartridge 
>> on the mac. I've missed this one and thought I had it and can't find 
>> anything to show me where I need to go and format a drive. I had a linux 
>> system that I had downloaded some Nls books on a cartridge and some other 
>> files. In the process Linux left a few unsavory somethings not he cartridge 
>> that I wanted to wipe clean and make it brand new again but I can't get in 
>> and find the formatting option anywhere. I used to be able to find it but i 
>> haven't had to use it in so long and MountainLion is a little different than 
>> snow leopard was at work when I had to use this then, so just a bit stuck. 
>> But, I can get info but I can't find where to format the drive. Thanks again 
>> and take care. I promise after this one I'll go back to my corner, Lol.
>>  
>> Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> Jun 15 12:39PM -0600  
>> 
>> Hi Timothy,
>>  
>> When in the Finder, press cmd-shift-u to open the Utilities folder. Locate 
>> Disk Utility and the USB drive should be listed in the Table on the left. 
>> When it's selected, you can choose the Erase tab and go from there.
>>  
>> Later...
>>  
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>  
>>  
>> Timothy Emmons <[email protected]> Jun 15 02:38PM -0500  
>> 
>> Thanks Tim, I found it, and it worked like a charm. I appreciate that, and I 
>> didn't realize there was a keyboard shortcut for Disk utility until I saw 
>> your email so this definitely helps as well. Thanks again. Take care and 
>> I'll talk to you soon. 
>>  
>>  what's the current state of firefox accessibility with the latest version 
>> of mac os10
>> Chris Blouch <[email protected]> Jun 15 11:51AM -0400  
>> 
>> 21 is the latest stable version. Firefox 22 is 'Beta' while Firefox 23 
>> is for 'developers'.
>>  
>> CB
>>  
>> On 6/15/13 7:02 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
>>  
>> -- 
>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>  
>> shane christenson <[email protected]> Jun 15 01:31PM -0500  
>> 
>> While we seem to be on the subject of web browsers, although I haven't tried 
>> it in quite a few months, I'm curious to see if anyone has tried google 
>> chrome on the mac. I know, at least on my system, that both firefox and 
>> google chrome were very sluggish. Thanks for any input.
>>  
>> Shane
>>  
>>  
>> Tim Kilburn <[email protected]> Jun 15 12:43PM -0600  
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I find Chrome to be quite snappy most of the time. I also find that, from my 
>> point of view anyway, that it works much better with ChromeVox than with VO. 
>> Sometimes you need to have both VO and ChromeVox on at the same time, 
>> especially when accessing menus since ChromeVox is only useful within the 
>> Chrome Browser itself.
>>  
>> Later...
>>  
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
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