I'm definitely  a fan of structured discovery.  However, I appreciate the 
ability to do the equivalent of sign reading that my sighted peers enjoy.  
Combining technology and alternative techniques works - smile!  I'm a satisfied 
user of BlindSquare!
On Jul 12, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Ray Foret jr <[email protected]> wrote:

> What I mean is that it is possible to observe what is arround you and thus to 
> find your way to any place you wish even if you don't know the area.  
> 
> 
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in!
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
> 
> On Jul 12, 2013, at 3:33 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> What do you mean about structured discovery?
>> 
>> Lähetetty iPhonesta
>> 
>> Ray Foret jr <[email protected]> kirjoitti 12.7.2013 kello 23.11:
>> 
>>> Me, I'd rather use structured discovery.  It's free and let's you go 
>>> anywhere.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>> 
>>> On Jul 12, 2013, at 3:00 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> First, it'd only be two apps, Blindsquare in the background speaking POIs 
>>>> and streets and your maps/gps app telling you where to go. It sounds 
>>>> combersome, but if you don't know where you are going, a cane or dog won't 
>>>> help you. True, once you know a route a dog is good about taking you back 
>>>> to the same place, but for getting to new places or getting to known 
>>>> places in new ways you sometimes need or want the extra help of 
>>>> technology. If it's a single app you want, Sendero's app can do the job, 
>>>> but it is $70 per year or $130 every three years. I'd rather get 
>>>> Blindsquare and use iOS7's walking directions when that comes out, but 
>>>> that's just me.
>>>> On Jul 12, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Ray Foret jr <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Gee wizz.  Three apps just to get around?  Better just to use a cane or 
>>>>> guide dog then right?  I mean, three apps just to get around?  Ain't that 
>>>>> getting just a bit cumbersome?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>>>> built-in!
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 12, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> This leads to a question, when launching the third party apps for 
>>>>>> navigation, is it specified what type of root to create, driving, 
>>>>>> walking, etc? Or does the third party app use whatever is set as the 
>>>>>> default?
>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>> 1) Kind of. It itself has this getting warm, but it supports many 3rd 
>>>>>>> party apps that you can be launched directly from BSq: TomTom, Navigon, 
>>>>>>> MotionX, Google Maps, Apple maps etc. Since BlindSquare can run on 
>>>>>>> backgrpund, you will get best of both worlds. For example Navigon is 
>>>>>>> giving turn-by-turn and BlindSquare is adding street info, 
>>>>>>> intersections and information about surrounding places on top of that. 
>>>>>>> In-app turn-by-turn is something that is planned into future, but 
>>>>>>> superior support for 3rd party apps you might already have will never 
>>>>>>> go away
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2) Sure you can. They are saved to iCloud, so they are shared among all 
>>>>>>> your iOS devices and when switching to new phone, all settings and POIs 
>>>>>>> follow automatically.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 3) Yes it does. It announces street addresses with numbers and 
>>>>>>> intersections both in pedestrian and faster speeds. It can announce 
>>>>>>> intersections in high speed also
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 4) Pretty close but it varies fro many factors. If you track Foursquare 
>>>>>>> place, t doesn'teven try to get closer than 16 meters since we don't 
>>>>>>> know nothing about accuracy of original POI. If you reset lcation for 
>>>>>>> that or create your own POI, also accuracy is saved to iCloud, in the 
>>>>>>> case that accuracy of POI and your current accuracy is good, it will 
>>>>>>> guide you just to the edge of accuracy (like 7 meters). That way it can 
>>>>>>> give it's final announcement with clockface information about direction
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> To get good overview of the app, please listen to this podcast: 
>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> <http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare app developer
>>>>>>> Lähetetty iPadista
>>>>>>> Alex Hall <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> kirjoitti 
>>>>>>> 12.7.2013 kello 15.47:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> All this talk about Blindsquare makes it sound like a pretty neat app, 
>>>>>>> and clearly a lot of people use it. Here are my questions:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1. Can it do routes? That is, can I tell it I want to get to my home, 
>>>>>>> or some business or address, and have it guide me there? If so, is this 
>>>>>>> turn-by-turn (I doubt it) or a "getting warmer" method?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2. Can I save my own POIs in the app, even without a Foursquare 
>>>>>>> account? If I need such an account, can I not have my location 
>>>>>>> broadcast to everyone else on Foursquare or Twitter?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 3. Does the app know streets at all? Again, likely not, but you never 
>>>>>>> know.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 4. How is the accuracy? I realize this will vary wildly from place to 
>>>>>>> place, and even due to things like weather and where on your person you 
>>>>>>> carry your phone, but in general, how close does it get you to 
>>>>>>> destinations?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for answers to these. I almost got Blindsquare, then 
>>>>>>> I started helping to test the Sendero app and found that Blindsquare 
>>>>>>> would be redundant. However, I do not plan on buying the Sendero app, 
>>>>>>> especially with walking directions coming to Maps in iOS7, so I am once 
>>>>>>> again considering Blindsquare.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini)
>>>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>> 
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