Well, John, it's not that I don't understand what interaction does, I was just 
offering my own ideas based somewhat on a new experience.


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On Jul 30, 2013, at 5:29 PM, John Panarese <[email protected]> wrote:

>  I don't believe that interaction could be removed in OS X.  You are 
> comparing two entirely different operating systems and situations.  You have 
> to understand  what exactly interacting does and how it works.  iOS is a 
> different and much more streamlined interface compared to the complexity of 
> OS X.  It's not a difficult concept to deal with and you can make it much 
> easier on yourself in a lot of ways.
>    Remember that the tab key will allow you to automatically interact with 
> items, and in situations it's available, like Mail, the control-option-j 
> command will automatically interact.
> 
> 
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> On Jul 30, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Ray Foret jr <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Good points.  I should like, however, to ask something.  Wouldn't the move 
>> to next and previous container areas be useful in the situation with ITunes 
>> you sight?  Either way, I can see interaction being done away with;  and, in 
>> my view, this would make a better and more true across the board expierence. 
>>  I'd like to know how others feel.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>> 
>> On Jul 30, 2013, at 4:33 PM, Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I couldn't disagree more.  Its not the concept of interacting that's the 
>>> problem, its in certain applications one has to do it too often to get to 
>>> basic functions.  streamlining these applications would do away with most 
>>> of the inconveniences interacting might have.
>>> 
>>> Keep in mind, and iPhone, and to lesser extent the iPad, has to maximize a 
>>> limited amount of screen space.  Instead of multiple windows displayed at 
>>> the same time that you need to interact with, they use pages that you move 
>>> back and forth through.  On a desktop, for navigating though tons of 
>>> information, I truly believe the interaction model is great when using a 
>>> screen reader.  If you don't believe me, use iTunes on Windows for a while. 
>>> haha.  You will be tabbing to death.  
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> [email protected]
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Jul 30, 2013, at 4:44 PM, Ray Foret jr <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ah, I was beginning to think I might just have to do that.  To speak 
>>>> frankly, I think it's high time Apple made the Mac OS function more like 
>>>> the IPhone IOS.  One of the things I'd like to see Apple do away with is 
>>>> the concept of interaction.  Yeah, I know that sounds strange, but, once 
>>>> you've paired an Apple bluetooth keyboard with an Iphone, you will quickly 
>>>> come to the opinion that it's actually faster not having to interact with 
>>>> stuff, and, in my view, if Apple really wants universal across the board 
>>>> compatibility, they really do need eventially to make a truly seemless 
>>>> experience.  Part of that, I think, means they will have to do away with 
>>>> interaction and this alone would help a good deal.
>>>> 
>>>> But this, I sussepct, belongs under its own thread.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>>> built-in!
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 30, 2013, at 3:39 PM, Chris H <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Turn QuickNav off for best results with Mail.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 30/07/2013 19:51, Ray Foret jr wrote:
>>>>>> Okay,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, at last, I have decided to give Quick Nav more of a try on my Mac.  
>>>>>> I find, however, that when I am in Mail, I can't move around from 
>>>>>> message to message even after interacting with the message table.  Can 
>>>>>> those of y'all who use quick Nav give me some tips how to most 
>>>>>> effectively move around in Mail?  Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
>>>>>> blind built-in!
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>>>>> 
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