I'm not arguing with that. It's the way many programs deal with interaction that's the real problem in my opinion. Lots of separate sections with multiple layers and no efficient method to switch between them like you can through containers. I understand the concept and see how it can and often is a great concept. It's all about integration. .
Danny. On 04/08/2013, at 9:55 PM, Matt Dierckens <[email protected]> wrote: > But interaction makes so much more sense. > Its basically telling VO, this is what I want to focus on, and not like > windows where it reads you every single thing and half the time you have to > read it anyway, and with VO you can choose to or not. > Matt Dierckens > [email protected] > > IOS and Macintosh User support, Windsor area > Sight Substitution Centre > > On 2013-08-04, at 7:30 AM, Danny Noonan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I'm thinking of Garage band and how often you interact and stop interacting >> over and over again. There are some key strokes but it's still such a time >> sink. >> >> I don't know how it could be done away with fully but better use of >> interaction by software would certainly make life easier. Have it be more >> universal across apps both native and third party. Making vo j work in most >> if not all multi interaction situations. Some times now it's vo j, other >> times, vo command shift t to switch between tables and other times like in >> the Sendspace wizard, you have 3 or more levels of interaction and have to >> move up 2 levels, vo right and then interact in another chain of levels. >> Arg. >> >> I love the mac but this is 1 of those things that makes the experience far >> sloppier and less consistent and is a major stumbling block on many coming >> to love using the OS despite its many advantages over windows. >> >> Danny. >> >> On 31/07/2013, at 9:03 AM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I think it is obvious that the interaction deal is one of the most >>> difficult things that somebody who moves from Windows to Mac needs to deal >>> with. What is frustrating is that it is not always clear when one needs to >>> interact. Trial and error and lots of keystrokes and wasted time result. I >>> certainly do agree that tabbing until your finger falls off isn't the best >>> solution. But I do wonder if there might not be a more innovative means of >>> efficiently navigating complex screens. Sometimes, it isn't even clear, for >>> instance, that you are in a situation where interacting again would yield >>> more info. I'm thinking of nested tables as an example. VO doesn't always >>> announce the fact that you have moved into a level 12 or even 3 table or >>> that you could do so by interacting. Maybe that is a coding issue, not a VO >>> issue. I do wonder if there are actual blind users who work for Apple who >>> have experience with other operating systems. I say that not because I want >>> to see some other approach duplicated, but because I've seen too much >>> tunnel vision coming from folks whose only experience is with one or >>> another os. >>> >>> Mary >>> >>> Mary Otten >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
