Forgot to say that last night the only way I was able to finish watching my video was to choose the iTunes link and pay Apple $1.99 for the download. I was going to do that again today, but I couldn't find the iTunes link for the one I wanted, unless I wanted to buy the dvd, which I didn't.
Regards again, Gigi On Aug 9, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi guys > I just had a very bad accessibility hour. Luckily, this was not something I > had to do, but the better I got, be more I wanted to do it. > > I have an application on my iPhone which sort of works with VoiceOver. For > one thing, the links don't always tell you what they are, and there are some > existing buttons or whatever they are that you can't tell exist. So, if you > want to play a video like I did last night, you have to get sighted help to > turn VoiceOver off and activate the button to play. The other thing is that > if you watch the free ones like I started to last night, you get interrupted > with an ad, and there's no way to get back using VoiceOver, never mind that > VoiceOver tells you that your video will start up in 12 seconds, but it never > does. > > Then add insult to injury. You are asked to do a survey. You are suspicious > taht there might be some accessibility problems, but forge on anyway. They > sent me a message to my iPhone with the link for doing the survey. I should > have chosen the email option because , you guessed it, it didn't work with > the iPhone. I could read all the questions, and find all the choices, > including the part to make comments. However, when I double tapped on the > answers, their dumb computer didn't recognize that I had tapped on them. > > So, I got out my Mac, and this time it worked. You guys can imagine what I > had to say, and of course, it was not complimentary at all. At the end I told > them to contact Apple accessibility to improve their program. Then I told the > survey people that I had spent an hour on their survey. I told them I had to > do it twice. > > Regards, > Gigi > > On Aug 9, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hey Gigi, >> >> Well put. I know I was only speaking about fantasy games, but wanted to >> refer to the big picture as well, this was just my example, and I think you >> summed it up very well. There are far more important things that need to be >> made accessible to people with all sorts of disabilities. This was just my >> way of chiming in. Thanks again for your thoughts and comments. >> On Aug 9, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi there >>> I am not a sports fan like my brothers. However, your comments are not >>> small here. I think what is needed is that accessibility, especially for >>> sensory accessibility, be required as a course for all computer >>> programmers, including those doing iOS. This is because, and I see it in >>> the group that I belong to, it never even occurs to those folks what is >>> needed and why something doesn't work. A lot of them just plain flat don't >>> get it, and when you have a big group of people doing the project, then you >>> are probably going to have a whole bunch of them that have not gotten it >>> yet. So, what I think you are looking at, is a group of people that sat >>> down and looked at the program that they had gotten, and thought some >>> wonderful ideas that would work just great for our sided friends. I'll bet >>> they never even thought that someone like you would want to play the game >>> >>> Until programming for sensory disabilities is a required course at >>> universities for computer programmers, I think we are going to continue to >>> have our programs broken from time to time. We are all busy trying to get >>> companies to recognize the importance accessibility, and Apple, for one has >>> done a good job on that. However, until we get universities across the >>> board to recognize that, we will continue, in my opinion, to have an uphill >>> battle. There are too many people out there thinking "I think it's too bad >>> that these people can't do anything. That's a real shame." We have to get >>> people away from that centuries-old mindset, and that is not easy. >>> Sincerely, >>> Gigi >>> On Aug 9, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey all, >>>> >>>> Having nowhere to write this as it is much more than 140 characters, I >>>> wanted to share my experience and opinion with the group. Relating to the >>>> big picture, I do get that this is fantasy football, but it really has >>>> opened my eyes to where accessibility falls with big companies. >>>> >>>> Going completely blind over the past several years, one of the things I >>>> miss most is being able to play team sports such as baseball and football. >>>> One of the ways I have adjusted to not being able to play or see the games >>>> anymore is by playing fantasy baseball and fantasy football. As my vision >>>> has deteriorated and I have come to completely rely on voiceover >>>> technology playing fantasy games has gotten harder and harder. >>>> >>>> The most important part and most fun is the live draft. It's where you >>>> build your team for the year. Do to sites like Yahoo and ESPN using java >>>> and flash to run these drafts, I have had to auto pick which doesn't allow >>>> you to participate with everyone else, and leaves you with an inferior >>>> team starting out. Two years ago, I was so excited when after scouring the >>>> web and app store I came across an app released by an individual >>>> entrepreneur called Big Noggins that was the first app that made it >>>> possible for you to draft your ESPN and Yahoo teams on your iPhone. I was >>>> so thankful and surprised when the app actually worked with Voiceover. Of >>>> course I figured once the live draft started there would probably be some >>>> complications with Voiceover. Nope, the app worked perfectly with >>>> Voiceover. Amazing, as technology had made my day a little brighter by >>>> allowing me to once again participate in a live draft. I know in the big >>>> picture this is just fantasy games, but anything that brings you a little >>>> enjoyment is a good thing, and I was so thrilled for the past two years to >>>> be able to draft my own teams. >>>> >>>> With the 2013 fantasy football season coming up I have been preparing to >>>> draft my teams and kept checking the app store for Big Noggins release of >>>> the 2013 draft app. With the season getting closer and closer, and no >>>> release of the app, I began to investigate what was going on. I went to >>>> Big Noggins website and discovered that his technology that allows people >>>> to draft their team on an iPhone had been acquired by Yahoo. Ok, well, >>>> yahoo is supposedly a forward thinking company when it comes to >>>> accessibility. I downloaded Yahoo's 2013 fantasy football app which has >>>> been completely retooled for 2013, and now thanks to Big Noggins >>>> technology allows Yahoo users for the first time to draft their team on an >>>> iPhone. >>>> >>>> Last night I decided to check out one of the mock drafts to prepare for my >>>> live draft and see how the accessibility works. No surprise, as even >>>> though Yahoo acquired a company whose app was fully accessible, Yahoo in >>>> implementing the technology into their own app completely broke its >>>> accessibility with Voiceover. Once again leaving blind fantasy sport >>>> players in the dark. How could a company as big as Yahoo that claims to >>>> care about accessibility break something that once worked? It just goes to >>>> show where accessibility falls with a big company. They don't care. For >>>> years, I have been speaking with Yahoo about the accessibility of their >>>> fantasy games, and have been getting the typical we're aware of the >>>> accessibility issues and are working on it. After this latest experience, >>>> I now believe and know that companies like Yahoo could care less when it >>>> comes to improving accessibility. If this small entrepreneur was able to >>>> make his app accessible how in the world can a billion dollar company like >>>> Yahoo take that same technology, implement it in their app, and completely >>>> leave out accessibility. My only conclusion is it is they just don't care. >>>> ESPN is even worse than Yahoo, as I have tried contacting them about >>>> accessibility for five years, and have not once received a response. I >>>> find it pathetic that a company like ESPN, which is owned by Disney could >>>> care less about implementing any form of accessibility to help allow blind >>>> people to use any of their apps. Their website is an absolute nightmare to >>>> try and read with a screen reader. If Major League Baseball and other >>>> small entrepreneurs can make their apps fully accessible with Voiceover >>>> than their is no excuse for a company like ESPN to not be able to make >>>> their apps and website accessible. >>>> >>>> I know that I am talking about fantasy games, and in the big picture, they >>>> are not important, but this experience with major companies does shed some >>>> light on where accessibility falls. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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