Hi Phil,
Eric Caron here, I was ambiguous, as I was not really that familiar
with the difference between the Caps lock as the modifier and the Insert key in
the Windows VM using JAWS. I'm not a computer expert so others should chime
in. I think that the way the apple computer works presently we can't get a
true caps lock modifier in the VM and that the closeest thing is to have it
work as a insert key. this modification happened almost by accident as a
result of my conversations with the app developer of Keyremap4macbook. For me
the app is working great in both the Mac side and VM Windows with JAWS side.
It is not exactly like a PC but as I use a extended USB keyboard I have all the
functions I need one way or another. My focus when talking with the developer
was really about having the Caps lock act like the VO keys and the Insert in
the VM was a afterthought.
It would be a good idea for someone with more computer background to re do the
podcast as the apps have changed greatly. Also, someone who understands the
JAWS side and the Apple keyboard could talk to the developer to see if there is
a way to get a true caps lock on the PC side. My understanding is that there
is not.
below is a old post from Esther I'm pasting in that contains better information
and useful links.
I hope this is helpful. I must say I love having the caps lock key on my Apple
act like the VO keys! I have much fewer problems with tangled fingers!
Esther's Post follows...
Hello Wayne and Chris,
Wayne is asking about using KeyRemap4MacBook, which was the subject of an
AppleVis podcast by Eric Caron on how to remap the Control+Option commands to
the caps lock key for use with VoiceOver on the Mac, with additional
instructions on how to get this to work as an insert key for JAWS under VMWare
fusion. Any attempts to remap the caps lock key on the Mac requires the
KeyRemap4MacBook application and the PCKeyboardHack file from the same web
site:
http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/
and
http://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/pckeyboardhack-usage.html.en
I think the point of confusion is that this is not an application dedicated to
turning the caps lock key into VO keys, but a general key remapping application
for the Mac. As such, the user would still need specific instructions on how to
remap caps lock to the Control+Option keys. And any post that gave those
details would also provide links to the necessary files. I'll give links to two
of my mail archive posts that provide links to the relevant AppleVis podcast
and guide posts, and also to some more sources of information about using
KeyRemap4MacBook to configure the Mac (laptop or Bluetooth) keyboard for use
with Windows under VMWare fusion:
• Use KeyRemap4MacBook to remap the insert key to Caps Lock [was Re: The insert
key in VMware fusion]
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg84983.html
• Re: VO keys needed in VM
http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg89672.html
The first linked mail archive post gives links to Eric's podcast and user guide
for remapping the caps lock key at the AppleVis site, but also explains why
some other solutions for remapping the caps lock key (for use as a modifier key
for Windows under VMWare fusion) don't work. The second linked mail archive
post gives links to blog posts at the "Flint's Geekiness" web site that
describe how to modify Eric's instructions for the current version of
KeyRemap4MacBook. If you don't need any background information about the layout
of KeyRemap4MacBook, how to navigate it for general use, or to listen to a
podcast, then you can go directly to the first linked "Flint's Geekiness" blog
post in my second linked archive post and follow its instructions. And you can
ignore the links I gave to the following two posts at that site, which are
about configuring other settings under the VMWare Fusion preferences for
Windows operation to eliminate conflicting Mac key definitions. However, for
most users, I'd recommend listening to Eric's podcast and reading through the
user guide and comments at AppleVis. The main thing that changed in the new
version of the KeyRemap4MacBook setup last September is that the instructions
now apply to navigating within the app itself, and not to separate preference
panes under System Preferences. You also no longer have to get a special
developer version of KeyRemap4MacBook, since all the changes were incorporated
into the current version. What Eric did not detail was different ways of
avoiding conflicts with Mac key definitions for Windows under VMWare Fusion,
since that is somewhat user specific and really about setting up Windows use
under VMWare Fusion. The two remaining linked posts in the "Flint's
Geekiness" blog describe how that can be handled under VMWare Fusion's
preferences. As far as I know, there's been no reference to those blog posts
on this list, since Jeffrey Shockley provided the first link in response to
Phil's question about ways to get an insert key for JAWS under VMWare fusion,
but Phil ultimately used Sharp Keys to remap his insert key, and did not remap
the caps lock key at all.
HTH. Probably other Windows users on this list can help with further
information, since I don't use VMWare fusion, Windows, or JAWS on my Mac.
Cheers,
Esther
On Aug 18, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Phil Halton <[email protected]> wrote:
> Before I try the method for remapping the caps lock key outlined in Eric's
> podcast, I want to clarify something. He is somewhat ambiguous about the caps
> lock functionality in VM's. I can't be sure if pressing caps lock in the VM
> will produce a caps lock key or an insert key. I don't want to use insert as
> the jaws modifier, because it conflicts with other jaws insert key
> combinations. for example, the insert+J key combo is the jaws window dialog
> key, but in laptop keyboard mode, insert+j reads the prior word. So, using
> insert as the modifier when in laptop mode, causes a conflict and neither key
> command will work as a result.
> Therefore, I want to use the standard laptop mode modifier which is caps
> lock, as it does not cause this or other conflicts.
> I am currently using sharp keys to remap the grave accent key to caps lock
> functionality, and using laptop keyboard mode with caps lock set as the
> modifier key.
>
> So, my Question is, will the Keyremap4MacBook method produce an insert or
> caps lock key when pressing the caps lock from within a VM?
> How are other Jaws users working this? are you using laptop keyboard mode,
> and if so, have you noticed the "read prior word" (insert+j) command
> conflict?
>
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