The Seeing App is not free.  I only know that the 3 year subscription is 130 
dollars but you can pay a year's subscription but not sure what that is.  I 
think it worth the money as I use to use a similar app on a mobile called GEO 
and this is what it is like.
On 1 Sep 2013, at 17:04, Jessica Moss <[email protected]> wrote:

> Interesting, how much does the Seeing eye app cost, or is it a free app?
> On Sep 1, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> Lots of things as I know the Seeing App is fully VI friendly as it will tell 
>> you what is in front and what is coming up next which Blind Square lacks.  I 
>> don't want to open ten apps to get what I need as opening one app is enough. 
>>  On the bus even though I have not set a route it doesn't tell me where I am 
>> and I have almost missed my stop even though I've told it what to do.
>> On 1 Sep 2013, at 16:39, Jessica Moss <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> What does it not do for you?
>>> On Sep 1, 2013, at 11:36 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I've been using Blind Square for some time now and unfortunately, I don't 
>>>> think very much of it as it doesn't do what I want it to do.  I'm waiting 
>>>> for the Seeing Eye app to come out here in the UK.  When it does, Blind 
>>>> Square will be off my phone.
>>>> On 1 Sep 2013, at 16:32, Jessica Moss <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> $24?  I checked it via the "via app, and it still says $14, but maybe 
>>>>> they haven't updated their info?
>>>>> Either way, I still don't have the money for it yet, but wish I did, 
>>>>> sense it sounds amazing.
>>>>> On Sep 1, 2013, at 1:28 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jessica, price is USD 24 for that fun but it's one time fee and updates 
>>>>>> are free. Even that podcast was outdated since I have had 2 or 3 updates 
>>>>>> after that, so now you have also possibility to use your Contacts lists, 
>>>>>> read Foursquare specials and tips, leave tips and more. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Jessica Moss 
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Cool podcast, thanx for the info on that; wish I had the $14 to shell 
>>>>>> out for it now.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 30, 2013, at 12:27 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jessica, BlindSquare is designed for visually impaired, so it is very 
>>>>>>> fluent to use. For example, there is just one search box where you type 
>>>>>>> any search term. It will find places by name, address, your contacts by 
>>>>>>> name, address or company, categories matching search term etc. From 
>>>>>>> search results you have options like "make a phone call", "google it", 
>>>>>>> "show restaurant menu", "simulate location" (you can "visit there" at 
>>>>>>> home). You can also set alert distance for the place, so for example, 
>>>>>>> if you simulated your destination at home and found nearest bus stop, 
>>>>>>> you can set alert distance of 300 meters for that stop, so you will get 
>>>>>>> alerted when you need to get off. There is also button to Plan a route. 
>>>>>>> It will list you all navigation apps you have installed (Google Maps, 
>>>>>>> TomTom, Navigon, Waze etc.) and when selected, you will have that 3rd 
>>>>>>> party app running, destination is selected and you will get spoken 
>>>>>>> turn-by-turn. BlindSquare will stay on background adding information 
>>>>>>> about your address, intersections and nearby places while you go. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You will learn most of it's features by listening this podcast: 
>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/blindsquare-feature-packed-navigational-tool-blind-ios-users
>>>>>>> Some more features: 
>>>>>>> https://audioboo.fm/boos/1497058-blindsqare-news-podcast-1-for-release-1-43
>>>>>>> Walking demo: 
>>>>>>> https://audioboo.fm/boos/1555578-blindsquare-walking-demo-using-google-maps
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Jessica Moss 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Ok, I'm really confused here.  I've started trying to use google maps, 
>>>>>>> for example, and have a love-hate relationship with it, considering the 
>>>>>>> fact that I love the idea that unlike mapquest, the search feature as 
>>>>>>> far as finding a location such as "pizza hut," is so much easier, 
>>>>>>> however, I don't like the fact that you can't access your contact info 
>>>>>>> like you can with map quest/apple maps, which is something I do really 
>>>>>>> frequently.
>>>>>>> Also, I've found that in a lot of cases, its acuracy can be really off 
>>>>>>> when navigating, and was wondering if anyone else has ever had this 
>>>>>>> issue.  Something else I was curious about, what's the difference 
>>>>>>> between using blindsquare with an app like google maps, and just using 
>>>>>>> google maps, for example, by itself?
>>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I actually use GPS more for telling me streets and places than 
>>>>>>>> directions. While it's certainly no substitute for a cane or guide dog 
>>>>>>>> and good travel skills, for me it's just as important. I remember back 
>>>>>>>> in 2009, this was when I was using way finder on a Nokia Symbian 
>>>>>>>> phone, I had gone out for a nice long walk, on the way home, one of 
>>>>>>>> the streets had an interesting curve in it and I found myself in a 
>>>>>>>> different place than I expected. I probably would not have gotten back 
>>>>>>>> on track had it not been for the GPS program, and it was kind of late 
>>>>>>>> so there was no one around to ask. These days, having nearby explorer 
>>>>>>>> on my android devices, and the sendero seeing eye app and blindsquare 
>>>>>>>> on my iphone are good things for sure.
>>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>>> Wow, Cheree! what a story!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Glad you had friends you could call and that all worked out well! :)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I love the fact that GPS apps are so prevalent on mobile platforms 
>>>>>>>>> now. -And that so many of them are at least usable for us. It's very 
>>>>>>>>> freeing when you think about it. :)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In addition to assisting people you are with, they can go a long way 
>>>>>>>>> to helping people get acquainted with their environments so that we 
>>>>>>>>> can really get a better sense of our surroundings.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing and have a wonderful night!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Smiles,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cara :)
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 28, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Cheree Heppe <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Cheree Heppe here:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The use of the GPS in a car could only have happened to somebody in a 
>>>>>>>>> sit-com, but, trust me, it happened to my friends and me this 
>>>>>>>>> afternoon.
>>>>>>>>> A pair of apparently solid sandals that I wore to work completely 
>>>>>>>>> broke down, leaving me the choice of walking in my nearly bare feet 
>>>>>>>>> over questionably clear sidewalks and streets to get home.  I decided 
>>>>>>>>> that would be a very risky plan and phoned a family I have known for 
>>>>>>>>> some years with an emergency plea for transport or to borrow a pair 
>>>>>>>>> of shoes.  All of the girls and their mother wear the same size shoe 
>>>>>>>>> as I do.
>>>>>>>>> The mom, Carolyn, agreed to pick me up after my work day and drive me 
>>>>>>>>> home and share a pair of shoes until I could step on to home turf and 
>>>>>>>>> return them.
>>>>>>>>> At about 17:25, long after I got outside in my nearly bare feet, they 
>>>>>>>>> hadn't arrived.  Two phone calls determined that Carolyn had parked 
>>>>>>>>> her SUV in one of those self-serve parking garages and walked several 
>>>>>>>>> blocks to me.
>>>>>>>>> When Carolyn and her daughter, Hannah, saw me outide my building, 
>>>>>>>>> they simultaneously realized that they'd forgotten the loaner pair of 
>>>>>>>>> shoes in their car.
>>>>>>>>> Carolyn wore a double pair of socks and let me slip into her 
>>>>>>>>> sneakers.  We carefully, for Carolyn's sake, wended our way to find 
>>>>>>>>> the building and her SUV.
>>>>>>>>> Once up the ramps and at the car, we all got inside, only to have 
>>>>>>>>> Carolyn realize that her credit card was at home next to the laptop.  
>>>>>>>>> This car park requires a credit card in order to open the exit gates.
>>>>>>>>> We decided to use my card.  Carolyn took it to the machine, where, 
>>>>>>>>> because of Braille labelling I affixed with the card number, etc, it 
>>>>>>>>> promptly got well and truly jammed in the machine.  Naturally, it 
>>>>>>>>> hadn't gotten to the stage to let us, or the ever-growing line of 
>>>>>>>>> cars and driers out of the parking structure.
>>>>>>>>> On the automatic card machine now jammed with my card is a keypad to 
>>>>>>>>> use in case of problems.  Carolyn dialed and explained that a card 
>>>>>>>>> had gotten jammed in the machine.
>>>>>>>>> Several staff from the Embassy Suites to which the parking structure 
>>>>>>>>> belonged, came out and could not get the card out.  Meanwhile, the 
>>>>>>>>> drivers were making increasingly interesting suggestions about our 
>>>>>>>>> situation.
>>>>>>>>> Finally, the hotel engineer came with a pair of needle-nose pliers 
>>>>>>>>> and pulled the card out.
>>>>>>>>> All and sundry breathed a really large sigh of relief and we all got 
>>>>>>>>> free egress from there.
>>>>>>>>> Not, for the GPS part.
>>>>>>>>> Carolyn is not familiar with the city and I am not familiar with 
>>>>>>>>> driver helps.  What a team.  So, I brought up WAZE, a navigation and 
>>>>>>>>> traffic GPS that one of my former readers swears by.  Sure enough, 
>>>>>>>>> after I set it up, I had to turn off VoiceOver to Carolyn's sighted 
>>>>>>>>> daughter could read the directions to Carolyn.  WAZE is more 
>>>>>>>>> accessible than it started out to be, but still is not blind friendly 
>>>>>>>>> enough to use the way we would really like.  It's amazing for sighted 
>>>>>>>>> users, however.
>>>>>>>>> We found our way home beautifully.
>>>>>>>>> If I actually learn how to use some of my GPS apps, I suspect I will 
>>>>>>>>> have powerful tools in the palm of my hand.  I have Ariadne and Blind 
>>>>>>>>> Square and they help more than hinder.  Maybe I'm making GPS 
>>>>>>>>> progress, eh?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Cheree Heppe
>>>>>>>>> T
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my IPhone 4S
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