Ah, sorry. I wasn't sure, so thought I'd double-check. Are the shift commands with space different from the ones without the shift? i.e. shift-space-h versus space-h. That is a good point. When I considered buying this display, I realized after looking at the manual that Apple commands wouldn't be supported widely by FS. All of the commands in the manual are Jaws or windows-based. I don't have a particular problem with this, given that the Mac is off-the-shelf and FS is primarily working with jaws and windows, naturally. Getting the firmware updates is a bit tricky, too, but doable.
It seems that this shift-key implementation might be a good suggestion for Apple devs to make use of. This gives two more modifier keys to play with. Teresa On Oct 4, 2013, at 8:01 AM, Ben van Poppel <benvanpop...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Teresa. > > Sorry, I should have been a bit more explicit. I meant, when you're assigning > commands in the Braille tab, you can assign keystrokes including the shift > keys, provided the keystroke also includes the spacebar, but not otherwise. > I'm assuming it has to do with how VO reads the key events from the Focus, > ie., something like if perkins keys are pressed, only treat the keystroke as > a VO command if space is held down as part of it, otherwise translate to a > typable character. I had wanted to assign commands like focus right shift +h > to go to next heading, left shift +h to go to previous, or even to redefine > dot7 and dot8 as backspace and enter respectively. It just seems unduly > restrictive for no good reason. > > Ben > > > On 05/10/2013, at 12:36 AM, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, Ben, >> >> I have a Focus 40 Blue. I admit that I have never tried to use the shift >> keys when assigning keystrokes. Have you tried this yet? I'd think it might >> be worth a shot. Go into VO utility with VO-f8 and choose Braille. Then >> choose the Display tab and once you have your display selected, press the >> assign commands button and have a go at it. You can also look up the >> previously-assigned commands in the table. >> >> HtH, >> Teresa >> On Oct 4, 2013, at 6:50 AM, Ben van Poppel <benvanpop...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone. >>> >>> Just wondering if anybody else has encountered this. Since the beginning >>> I've used VO on the Mac with my faithful old Focus 40 display, which >>> rattles ominously now but is still going strong after 7 years. The shift >>> keys on either side of the spacebar on the Focus's Perkins keyboard don't >>> seem to have been made bindable in any way using VoiceOver, except they >>> seem to emulate a shit modifier from the actual keyboard. More precisely, >>> if pressed with space + other keys, they are useable as part of a command, >>> otherwise they behave like regular shift keys. This never bothered me since >>> I was using a desktop keyboard and could go to town with the numpad >>> commander. Now I've purchased a Focus 40 Blue to use with my MacBook Air >>> and i-thingies. The shift keys on the Blue don't do anything either, which >>> cramps my style a little more. Of course JAWS always bound them into useful >>> keystrokes, and Brltty under Linux uses them as well. I'm curious as to why >>> Apple hasn't at least made them available so they can be assigned to do >>> useful work, ie., act as full command modifiers in their own right. Has >>> anybody else experienced this and/or know if there's a reason they haven't >>> been fully taken advantage of? More for my own interest than anything, but >>> I might run it by Apple if nobody knows the answers on here or its not >>> already an anomaly Apple knows about. >>> >>> Cheers. >>> Ben >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
