When I installed windows on Boot Camp a while back, I use the actual DVDs and not iso images. I also used a DVD containing the Apple support software, again, not a nice OMH. I don't know if that makes any difference at all. And, of course, I had a cited assistant sitting next to me. I was also using a USB keyboard. And, I had thoroughly read the Boot Camp installation documentation before trying all this So I knew exactly what steps were involved. Good luckl Sent from my IPhone
> On Oct 13, 2013, at 5:46 AM, Paul Erkens <[email protected]> wrote: > > GHi All, > > Having installed windows on a bootcamp partition on my own mac mini machine, > I was hoping to help a blind friend of mine, who has a macbook air late 2012, > in doing the same. To cut a long story short: We did not succeed. Neither her > keyboard nor trackpad works, once in the windows setup. > > To begin with, The bootcamp utility asks for an iso file of the official > windows installation dvd, which she both has, the physical disk, and an iso > created from it. Second, bootcamp assistant wants a USB flash drive,. It will > then take the windows iso dvd file, copy that over to the USB stick, make the > stick bootable, and it then adds the bootcamp support software to the stick > as well. This support software is necessary after installing windows, and it > contains all the necessary windows drivers for the specific mac hardware. > Finally, the bootcamp assistant shrinks your current mac partition to make > room for the new windows partition. Sizes are of course adjustable. > > After bootcamp assistant made its partition and copied everything to the USB > flash drive, it required us to restart the mac, boot from the USB stick, and > run the windows setup program from there. After the first screen of windows > setup appears, where you choose your language and locale, we found that the > mac keyboard, as well as the trackpad, as well as a USB mouse that we plugged > in, are not willing to work. So essentially, we're stuck after booting the > bootcamp assistant created windows installation. Of course, we found out > about this, after getting sighted help to see how windows was acting when we > pressed some keys. Nothing. > > Has any of you experienced the same issue, where the macbook air late 2012 > model will not function in the initial windows setup? > We looked on the Apple support site, where we learned that the USB flash > drive should be put into the left USB connector on the macbook air. > Interesting, but if they say that'll work, okay we did that. But to no avail. > > Can anyone point me in the right direction? > > Thanks a lot for writing, > Paul. > >> On Oct 10, 2013, at 1:57 PM, Paul Erkens <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hello Georges, >> >> Your answers have been most helpful. Thank you so much for taking the time >> to fill in the gaps. I've been busy installing bootcamp windows, and it's >> all set now. The win PE package is just awesome. I now have windows 64-bit >> installed, home premium, while I never thought this was possible at all >> without sighted help, but it is. Your latest answer contained exactly the >> missing bits of info I still needed, and now as I type, windows is doing all >> its updates in the background. I have the bootcamp partition, imported it >> into fusion, and now I can do lengthy tasks like updating, from OS 10, while >> also having the benefit of natively running windows for audio production if >> I need to, off of boot camp. Best of both worlds. :-) If I need to drag out >> my wave files from the bootcamp partition, I can now do so from os 10, and >> then amadeus them further as needed. Sometimes, a digital life can have nice >> surprises. >> >> Best, >> Paul. >>> On Oct 9, 2013, at 5:24 AM, Georges Zaynoun <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Paul: >>> I did this on a macbook white from the year 2009. Basically when this dvd >>> reaches the desktop you have two possibilities either it talks which is >>> what you want or it doesn't talk. In both cases you MUST use usb headset. >>> I connected a loud speaker to the USB adapter I have and turned the volume >>> high to the maximum. I noticed a little hum when usb audio was >>> initializing whether NVDA spoke or not and it became silent when the >>> desktop reached. I exited NVDA with capslock and q I heard nothing but >>> when I pressed enter I heard the chimes from NVDA. Now since I don't know >>> where is the focus I pressed command+m to be sure I am on the desktop then >>> pressed n by itself to focus the NVDA icon then RETURN and voila NVDA >>> started. When I did the install I did not use the install windows icon he >>> provided on the desktop since there is a bug there, I browsed from his dvd >>> to the setup.exe for Windows in the installers folder and the folder inside >>> it I don't remember its exact name but you will find it setup.exe or use >>> your own real windows dvd if you have one, just remember once you want to >>> eject a dvd while win7pe is loaded on the mac you cannot use the eject key >>> on your keyboard, you MUST open the computer folder from the first icon on >>> the desktop then highlight the dvd and eject it from the menus, you >>> activate the menus with the option key. >>> As for why I used the recovery partition is because I wanted to make sure >>> which startup disk I wanted to use next time. So for example after the >>> first phase of installing Windows with speech when Windows wanted to >>> restart as soon as I powered the mac and heard the music I ejected his dvd, >>> powered off the mac, powered it on again and kept option depressed and >>> counted to say five or ten in my heart then pressed left arrow then RETURN >>> and waited until recovery came then started VO and selected that I wanted >>> to start from Windows. Maybe this was not necessary and it was enough to >>> eject his dvd but I have a tendency every now and then to use this recovery >>> partition as a talking startup disk since I am totally blind and have no >>> sighted people around. >>> Finally I started windows it finished setting itself up of course without >>> speech then restarted by itself, it is up to you, no need to halt it to >>> select it from the recovery partition it will start in Windows then you >>> press command+u to get narrator talking from usb and you tab/shift tab to >>> ok to make windows setup. Once setup is done you install your bootcamp >>> drivers and after that you never need usb speakers and you can use the >>> eject key to eject dvds. In one word you do the first phase of setup with >>> dvd in the machine and you get speech when windows wants to restart eject >>> your dvd and let it restart and wait until it restarts again then use >>> narrator to set it up. >>> Original message: >>>> Hi Georges, >>> >>>> This looks like a very to the point answer. Thank you so much for pointing >>>> this out. There are 2 little things that I don't understand yet. Would you >>>> please clarify the following: >>>> 1. How can I exit NVDA? I don't yet know where windows maps its insert key >>>> in bootcamp. On a US keyboard, where is insert? I would then do a insert >>>> plus f4. That should bring up the NVDA exit dialog. Is this correct so >>>> far? And which key is insert, or is there another way? >>> >>>> 2. You said: I used the mac recovery startup disk each time I wanted to >>>> boot from this Megadvd. What does this mean? To boot into windows, do you >>>> start your mac, then hold down command plus r, so that it boots into the >>>> mac recovery partition? But then how do you continue? >>> >>>> I hope I'll hear back from you, because this seems exactly the bit of >>>> missing information that I'm still looking for. Thanks for your answer >>>> thus far. Please do reply. >>>> Paul. >>>> On Oct 8, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Georges Zaynoun <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>>> Folks, I used the Win7PE successfully twice to install on bootcamp and I >>>>> did it alone just today and I am totally blind. What you need to do is >>>>> you MUST use usb speakers or headphones and if NVDA doesn't speak to you >>>>> just exit it without speech and answer yes to the question you don't >>>>> hear, the confirmation you will get is the NVDA exit sound. Once that is >>>>> done you can simply hit the letter n making sure you are on the desktop >>>>> then enter and NVDA will start speaking from your usb device and you will >>>>> be able to install Windows. >>> >>>>> I used the mac recovery startup disk each time I wanted to boot from this >>>>> Megadvd. >>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Georges Zeinoun >>>>> Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE >>>>> Tel: +46500482929 >>>>> Mobile: +46739861743 >>>>> E-mail: [email protected] >>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> Georges Zeinoun >>> Timmerv. 6A, SE54163 SKÖVDE >>> Tel: +46500482929 >>> Mobile: +46739861743 >>> E-mail: [email protected] >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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