I wonder what it will take to get Google to just get on with implementing HTML5 
and dump this fuckin' flash! I refuse to install that parasite on my system 
under any condition. I may be missing lots of youtube content, but I refuse to 
compromise my computer with inaccessible flash players and Adobe flatly refuses 
to make any accessibility improvements to this so-called product.

On Oct 6, 2013, at 1:13 PM, Terje Strømberg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Unfortunately the frame command does not work on other videos. Often after 
> activating links to videos Voice Over are already interacting with the html 
> or flash player already, but this may not be true all the time. I use a 
> physical mouse together with keyboard. In Voice Over utility i have set the 
> mouse to speak immediately at once. When i move the mouse over the html/flash 
> player Voice Over says "group". If i left click with the mouse at this time, 
> i can often interact with the keyboard commands, but have to wait for the 
> advertisement to finish or there can not be a link under the mouse on the 
> html/flash player. 
> 
> If there is a way to get Voice Over to focus on the player, the 
> SHIFT-VO-COMMAND+SPACEBAR may work.
> 
> Take care 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> How do you know if it is a flash player or html player? Voice Over only says 
>> "Group" on this mac. 
>> 
>> I found a way to interact with Voice Over on this player. Don`t know if it 
>> is a html 5 or flash player. The player is a frame. If you are using a 
>> bluetooth keyboard you may use the FN key in combination with the commands 
>> described below. At the bottom there is a link to a you tube video about 
>> some fruit, but below that video there is written You Tube player commands.
>> 
>> 1. First interact with html - VO-SHIFT-M
>> 2. Go to next frame by typing the command key VO-COMMAND-F
>> 3. Type the mouse down command - SHIFT-VO-COMMAND+SPACEBAR
>> 4. Type k to play and pause.
>> 5. Type M to mute and unmute. Arrow up or down to increase or decrease 
>> volume.
>> 6. ESC to minimase the You Tube player window may be nescessary
>> http://brokensecrets.com/2013/04/11/youtube-keyboard-shortcuts/
>> 
>> Take care
>> 
>> 
>> 6. okt. 2013 kl. 03:42 skrev Mike Arrigo <[email protected]>:
>> 
>>> Yes, I am having the exact same issue, same thing for chrome. Nice to know 
>>> I am not the only one.
>>> On Oct 5, 2013, at 2:47 AM, Ray Foret jr <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It seems that if a video is not an HTML 5 video, it will not play in 
>>>> Safari anymore.  I do have the latest flash player.  Also, I discovered 
>>>> that every single time I do click on an HTML 5 video, the volume is all 
>>>> the way down to zero on the player and there is no way to play videos 
>>>> which are not HTML 5 at all.
>>>> 
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>>> built-in!
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>>>> 
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