> > Thanks Tim! At least you confirmed the problem... I was thinking I was > having a major brain freeze. I will forward my findings to > [email protected] and I will check out your (sometimes possible) work > arounds. Lou/BlindMacMan > > On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:42:00 AM UTC-7, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi Lou, > > I can confirm your findings. Here’s what I do to get around this for now. > > 1. After activating a link in the first frame, press tab until you reach > an item in the other frame. > 2. If it is a link you wish to affect, press return after tabbing to it. > > This is where things get inconsistent. Sometimes, I can Interact with > whatever I’ve tabbed to and then VO focus restores but not as often as I’d > like. It appears that when using VO navigation, including the Item > Chooser, most of the elements aren’t being noticed by VO. If you tab > though, they are workable, but not really in a VO way. What I mean here, > is that using VO commands makes it lose focus again whereas using OS > commands like tab and return will perform the task. I’ve also noticed > that, only sometimes, a Refresh of the page will help. > > So, overall, I probably have only confirmed your findings and only given > you half-baked work-arounds. Hope it helped a little. > > Later… > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Oct 30, 2013, at 9:17 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Hello! I maintain a website for a leather/levi social organization. The > website has a menu contents frame at the left and the main frame where the > content displays on the right. VoiceOver has never had a problem with this > setup until I upgraded to OS 10.9. > > When I first load the page, VO sees both frames. After making a selection > from the menu frame, VO only sees the menu frame and no longer sees the > main frame.... Every once in awhile it will see it, but if I make another > selection from the menu frame and try to return to it, it will not see it > the second time. > > Changing between Group and DOM navigation has no effect. Enabling and > disabling Live Regions also has no effect. > > Sighted people tell me that they have no problems using the website... The > main frame is being populated with the correct information... The problem > seems to be that VoiceOver forgets about the main frame (in other words, > when turning the web rotor to Frames, the only frame listed is the menu > frame). > > Do you have any ideas as to why this is happening under 10.9? Do you have > any suggestions as to a work around? (I can still do my work, it is just > difficult for me to proof without asking for sighted help, which I would > like to avoid.) > > Thanks for any assistance you may provide! > > Lou/BlindMacMan. > Golden Gate Guards > GGG Web/Post Master. > www.ggguards.org > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >
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