Andrew I think navigation of the extras menu hasn't changed from Mountain Lion to Maverix. In fact even back in the days of the status menu you still had to use vo arrow keys.

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On 13/11/2013 11:16, Andrew Lamanche wrote:
Thank you all who responded to my menu extras access shortcut key wows.

It definitely doesn’t work here. I found that I would use it more than the vo 
shortcut key. and I can no longer move along the menu bar with just s
arrow keys, I have to use vo+arrow keys.

Best wishes

Andrew
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can't activate the see more link on the facebook mobile site and creating 
signatures in apple mail [1 Update]
Focus display and Mavericks [8 Updates]
VO-J and Mail [1 Update]
iBooks internal location on the mac? [1 Update]
Infovox purchases gone [1 Update]
Is Winamp accessivle on the mac? [3 Updates]
xcode 5 question [4 Updates]
Track Changes or Text Attributes with Pages [2 Updates]
How does one get to menu extra in Maverick? [2 Updates]
Is it true in Mavericks that iTunes contact syncing has gone? [1 Update]
Help with Skype [1 Update]
  can't activate the see more link on the facebook mobile site and creating 
signatures in apple mail
Andrew Head <ath...@bigpond.net.au> Nov 13 06:33PM +1100

Hi all,
When I get to the end of a facebook page, the see more link comes up as a 
heading instead of a link and I can’t activate it. Just wondering what’s going 
on here and how to fix it?

also, how do you create a signature in apple mail?
Andrew

  Focus display and Mavericks
Kristeen Hughes <khwi...@gmail.com> Nov 12 04:27PM -0500

Okay, I look and I don't see some things that seem to be rather importatn. For 
example, if you are wanting to switch from one open app to another, how do you 
do it with the display. Are you using a keyboard along with the display?

Kristeen


Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> Nov 12 01:58PM -0800

Admittedly, yes, I’m also using a keyboard. My opinion is that you’ll probably 
have to do quite a lot of customizing to use a Braille display as a primary 
keyboard.

For switching apps, I’d probably map a braille keystroke to VO-applications 
list. (VO-f1 twice quickly)I don’t think there’s an easy way to map one to 
command-tab.

HtH,
Teresa

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to 
read."--Groucho Marx


Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> Nov 12 04:10PM -0600

Hi,
Teresa is correct, you have to do a lot of customizing in order to get your 
focus display to work as your keyboard. Unfortunately, you will have to use 
your keyboard more than you would like to. That's just the nature of the beast.

Sent from my iPhone


Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> Nov 12 05:00PM -0600

True duys, but I know I can get to the menu with my braille display. I c' 
remember how to do it on a Focus 40 although I had one. Can anyone remember 
what the braille keyboard command is for going to the menu and using left and 
right arrows. I found that useful when I was somewhat away from my computer. On 
my Braille Edge, it has some keys on it that will bring up Spotlight and the 
menus and the dock. That may help some. For instance, space dd sign will bring 
up the dock. Space question mark will let you interact and space low j will 
stop interacting. Do you have a list of braille key commands that are already 
in place?

Regards,
Gigi


Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> Nov 12 03:18PM -0800

It’s s-chord (dots 2-3-4-space). I just use the panning keys to display 
different areas of the menu bar, and then use the cursor-routing keys on the 
item I want. sometimes this doesn’t work, and I have to use dot 4-chord and dot 
1-chord to navigate through the menus

HtH,
teresa

"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to 
read."--Groucho Marx


Kristeen Hughes <khwi...@gmail.com> Nov 12 11:08PM -0500

Thanks,. This info does help. Can you tell me how I can sellect text? I've not 
been successful.

Kristeen

Ben van Poppel <benvanpop...@gmail.com> Nov 13 04:26PM +1100

Hi Kristeen, Teresa and the rest. The workaround I did for single-keystroke app 
switching was to write two scripts to simulate command-tab and 
command-shift-tab respectively. Then I assigned running of the scripts to focus 
commands (I used 12-chord and 45-chord). The scripts had one line each:
Tell application "System Events" to keystroke "tab" using command down

Tell application "System Events" to keystroke "tab" using {command down shift 
down}

In the examples above the "tab" means double quote then press tab then double 
quote again. \t might also be valid. I'm still not applescript proficient.

Hope that trick helps you out.

Cheers. Ben

Sent from my iPhone


Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> Nov 12 09:41PM -0800

Hi, Kristeen,

This is the sort of thing that I meant when I mentioned customization. WHAT you’d 
have to do is go into your Braille settings, go to the display tab, choose “assign 
commands", and assign a Braille command to select text. There aren’t separate 
commands for selecting different amounts of text, so honestly, I’m not sure how 
you’d do this. Also, unless I’m wrong, you’d have to use command-b on the keyboard 
to initiate the Braille command entry. I haven’t assigned keystrokes for this, 
because frankly, it’s more trouble than it’s worth to me. Let’s see if anyone else 
has already done this, and if not, I’ll experiment with it and let you know what I 
come up with. I admit I have my doubts that it’ll be an easy process.

HtH,
Teresa

"The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete Graham


  VO-J and Mail
Janet Ingber <janet.ing...@gmail.com> Nov 12 11:16PM -0500

Hello Everyone,

When I use VO-J to jump from the message list to an individual email,a few 
lines are read and then without my doing anything, I’m back in the messages 
table. This does not only happen with my Gmail account. I am using the default 
mail view and I have not made any changes. This behavior started a few days 
ago. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Janet

  iBooks internal location on the mac?
Kliphton ------- <kliphton....@outlook.com> Nov 12 09:44PM -0600

Hello. I have imported about 700 books in ePub format in to iBooks. They
read just fine, but I accidently deleted the folder where I originally
imported them from. Where does iBooks store them so I can try to save them
to a different folder for my own reference? Thanks.

Kliphton
~iMessage&Email~ kliphton....@outlook.com
~Twitter,Instagram,FourSquare&Skype~ kliphton72
~Text only~ 914-820-2298
"Personal blog-read at your own risk!" http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com

  Infovox purchases gone
"Antonio M. Guimaraes Jr." <freethau...@gmail.com> Nov 12 10:12PM -0500

I get a message that reads

"this is an evaluation version of Acapela text to speech synthesizer."




  Is Winamp accessivle on the mac?
Rob <musicmaker...@gmail.com> Nov 12 05:37PM -0600

Hi,
Have any of you tried winamp for the Mac?
Thanks,
Rob
You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
206-426-3505
"God is good all the time, & All the time God is good"

Michael Marshall <mightymaggie...@gmail.com> Nov 13 12:19PM +1100

hey,
sadly no, i tryed out the mac version and there is just nothing you can do in 
the program. i don’t think winamp is even beeing made for the mac from what i 
have read.

Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> Nov 12 07:33PM -0600

Would not recommend it. Nothing like the windows version.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!


  xcode 5 question
"Littlefield, Tyler" <ty...@tysdomain.com> Nov 11 02:06PM -0500

Helloo:
Thanks a lot for the info. When it says I have a new window, I have no
way of getting to that window. presumably that's where the variable gets
its name and everything. Does the window just pop up, or do you need to
do something special to get there?
Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it.
On 11/11/2013 2:01 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:

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Take care,
Ty
http://tds-solutions.net
He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that 
dares not reason is a slave.

"Littlefield, Tyler" <ty...@tysdomain.com> Nov 11 04:05PM -0500

I think I may have figured out the issue. with xcode 5 apparently you
are supposed to control+drag, which draws a blue line. clicking and
holding down doesn't work, because I don't get the blue line. Is there a
way to control+drag with voiceover?
On 11/11/2013 2:01 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:

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Ty
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He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that 
dares not reason is a slave.

"Littlefield, Tyler" <ty...@tysdomain.com> Nov 11 06:40PM -0500

It appears this method does not work for me as well. I drag and drop and
hear 'xcode has new window" and that's that. nothing happens and we're
back to square 1.
On 11/11/2013 6:32 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

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Take care,
Ty
http://tds-solutions.net
He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that 
dares not reason is a slave.

"Littlefield, Tyler" <ty...@tysdomain.com> Nov 11 02:06PM -0500

Hello:
sorry for the double message. Yes, in my routing step I did mean route
the mouse to the voiceover cursor. I just mixed the two up.
Thanks again,
On 11/11/2013 2:01 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:

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Take care,
Ty
http://tds-solutions.net
He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that 
dares not reason is a slave.

  Track Changes or Text Attributes with Pages
Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Nov 12 11:05PM +0100

Hello Ibraheem,

In the new Pages, if you stop interacting with everything, the second item on 
the page is the Change tracking and annotations toolbar group. Interact with 
this and click the Next button the changed text will be highlighted. You can 
read it with VO-F6 and decide what to do about it.

If you’re using the old version of Pages, you really need a Braille display to 
see the changes.

Cheers,

Anne
then


Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Nov 12 11:15PM +0100

Hello Nic,

Tracking changes is working much better in the new version of Pages. It tells 
you whether the change is an addition or a deletion, but I haven’t yet figured 
out how to find formatting changes.

Cheers,

Anne



  How does one get to menu extra in Maverick?
Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> Nov 12 01:53PM -0800

Odd. control-f8 works fine for me in Mavericks. This is the standard non-VO 
keystroke. For that matter, VO-m twice quickly also works. Sometimes the menus 
balk when a program is hanging, though.

HtH,
Teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.


Barry Hadder <bhad...@gmail.com> Nov 12 04:13PM -0600

Hi,

I have run into that situation several times where control-f8 doesn’t work with 
Mavericks. I’ve found that when it doesn’t work, I have to restart to git it 
back. I have no idea what causes this. It is true that you can git to the 
status menus with vo-m twice, but you can’t move through the menus with the 
arrow keys, and sometimes that’s useful.

The Finder keystrokes you mention work the same in Mavericks. At least, they 
are for me.


On Nov 12, 2013, at 2:59 PM, Andrew Lamanche <andrew.laman...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Listers,

I’ve just upgraded to Mavericks. The very first thing I’ve noticed is that the 
command ctrl+f8 to activate the menu extra no longer works. Nor can I open a 
folder with command down arrow or command + o. It has to be now command + shift 
+ o. Is that right?

Andrew

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  Is it true in Mavericks that iTunes contact syncing has gone?
Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> Nov 12 04:12PM -0600

Hi,
Yes, it is gone. They want you to eat sync your contacts with iCloud, which 
quite honestly, I think everybody should do. But that's just my opinion.

Sent from my iPhone


  Help with Skype
Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> Nov 12 04:58PM -0500

Ok, so I get that Skype changed a bunch of stuff recently and I can no longer 
access Skype on my iPhone as they seem to have gotten rid of logging in through 
Facebook. I am able to log in to Skype on my computer through Facebook, but 
can't seem to find any way to change my password so I can access Skype on my 
iPhone. I used the Skype desktop app to take me to the website to mange my 
account, clicked change password but this seems to take me to an inaccessible 
screen as I get the heading for Change Password but then there is nothing to 
interact with. Anyone know how to log in to Skype on your iPhone when your 
account was created through logging in to Facebook on the desktop? Thanks


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