Hi Daniel,
I will search for the dbtechies group.
I do not hear low tones. So my ear tends to over focus on high tones,
and they hurt. So, I don't do well with even comprehending television. I
do okay in person, if people talk slow enough and enunciate well. If they
don't, I have no idea what they are saying.
The worst thing is calling someone on the phone. I usually catch the
first word in the spiel, and the rest goes over my head. No matter how
many times I ask them to slow down and speak clearly, they don't. Doesn't
help when trying to call Apple support to learn how to use something.
Thanks,
April
On Thursday, January 9, 2014 1:08:33 PM UTC-5, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>
> April,
>
> I understand how you feel. Before I went blind, I used to be a computer
> repair guy. I was Comp/TIA certified and I used to build and maintain
> office computers. As soon I lost my vision, I went over two years with no
> communication. I could not call well, txt, or email or surf the web. But
> since upon learning the iPad, and iPhone, and then the Mac, I am now back.
> I want to be Apple certified but that is in the future.
>
> Yes dbtechies is at google groups. There is a guy there is the adaptive
> tech trainer for Helen Keller school for deafblind, his name is Scott
> Davert. And he is very knowledgeable and helpful there.
>
> How much of a loss in hearing do you have? face to face, do you understand
> voices ok?
> Daniel Hawkins
> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>
> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
> 2.3 Quad-core i7
> 4GB DDR3
> 500GB HDD
>
> Dual Boot:
> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>
> On Jan 9, 2014, at 11:10 AM, April Brown <[email protected]<javascript:>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> I haven't been enrolled in that program yet, unless it is part of
> the state program. I was diagnosies legaly blind last May, and am still in
> the early stages of getting help from the state. This next appointment
> should help.
>
> If I ever learn to use the technology, I'd like to be able to help
> others like me cross the bridge from the sighted and hearing world to
> non-sighted and non-hearing world. If it intimidates me, I can only
> imagine what it would do to someone who may not even know how to check
> their email before they go blind or deaf.
>
> I might contact offline next week. Am sick today and have online
> Braille class office hours in a few minutes. There are some power Mac
> users in there as well.
>
> Is the dbtechies on Google?
>
> I signed up for the website newsletter.
>
> I'll try to understand the VO commands later. I know I tried what I
> thought I was supposed to, and they only lightly beeped at me.
>
> I still have enough vision most days to get around the computer, at least
> till the evaluation in a few weeks.
>
> Thanks, and I may contact if still lost,
>
> April
>
> On Thursday, January 9, 2014 11:11:35 AM UTC-5, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>>
>> Hello April,
>>
>> Did you go through I Can Connect? With your hearing loss and vision loss
>> you should qualify that. I too went thru the program. As the federal law
>> states the equipment that you receive, you should receive training from the
>> state, in communication. Now each state is different in providing that. I
>> live in IL, and we don’t have a trainer, just one person that thinks they
>> know it. I had to learn everything myself. As of right now, I’m am working
>> twords a goal in training others to use assistance technology for blind and
>> deafblind. I will receive my full training hopefully in June. But as of
>> right now, I’m trying to learn as much I can now. So feel free to contact
>> me off list if you want training over email, or Apple’s iMessage, or over
>> the phone. I don’t know a whole a lot, but know enough to get around your
>> Mac quite well.
>>
>> There is a deafblind mailing list called dbtechies, if you want to join
>> too.
>>
>> I learned a lot of tips and basic things for both Mac, and iPhone at
>> www.htb2.com. There is a group of blind that talks and discuss about
>> everyday technology for the blind.
>>
>> Also if you are serious that you need this for your profession, maybe
>> check out Mac for the blind, or Fedora Outlier. Just some ideas.
>> As for surfing the internet, and you mentioned about you just see tabs
>> but not the page. If you go to the right and pass the tabs and see HTML
>> contact, you will need to interact. That is done by holding Vo shift down.
>> Or deinteract by holding VO shift and hit up arrow.
>>
>> Also here is a tip, If you want to google search or type an address in
>> Safari, just hit cmd l, that will take you to the address bar.
>>
>> I know there is an steep learning curve, and without no training, it can
>> be very very frustrating. Please, don’t give up, it will be worth it.
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>> 4GB DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>>
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>>
>> On Jan 9, 2014, at 7:00 AM, April Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Since dictation won't do what I need it to do in Pages, I'll try to find
>> something that will. Just not right now. I've still got to many little odd
>> things I don't know how to do on my new computer, and it exhausts me trying
>> to figure them out.
>>
>> As for VoiceOver, I tried to run training program three times over the
>> last few weeks, and couldn't get it to do what it was supposed to do within
>> the program. I printed off a many page document from AppleVis a few days
>> ago, and tried that yesterday. Extremely frustrating. I was able to get
>> it to work in Pages about as well as the regular reading program. As for
>> on the Internet, not at all. It read the tabs and nothing on the pages.
>> I'm setting it aside for now.
>>
>> Everyone usually comes to me for computer tech advice,
>> reformatting, and more. When I read the comments and questions on this,
>> and other blind computer sites, I feel like I'm reading a combination of
>> Greek and Chinese. I'm totally lost.
>>
>> I'd rather spend the next couple of weeks doing what I can do.
>> Rather than spending them trying to figure out how to do something, that a
>> person could show me how to do correctly in five minutes. Somehow there is
>> a missing key and I have to figure out what it is. Or better yet, have
>> someone show me.
>>
>> In a couple of weeks, I have my tech evaluation for the state. Or
>> maybe they're just going to set the date, I'm not sure. It takes forever to
>> get through the state program. I've been working on it for six months.
>>
>> I'm also slowly learning braille. I figure I will have to use a
>> braille display at some point. Talking for the dictation program exhausts
>> me, and makes my jaw hurt. Due to hearing loss, I have trouble
>> comprehending spoken words, so VoiceOver may not work for me either.
>>
>> I will keep checking back to learn new computer skills. At this
>> point, I'm not sure I have anything to offer anyone else. I don't even
>> recognize a tenth of the programs mentioned.
>>
>> Thanks for all your help.
>>
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> On Thursday, January 9, 2014 11:11:35 AM UTC-5, Daniel Hawkins wrote:
>>
>> Hello April,
>>
>> Did you go through I Can Connect? With your hearing loss and vision loss
>> you should qualify that. I too went thru the program. As the federal law
>> states the equipment that you receive, you should receive training from the
>> state, in communication. Now each state is different in providing that. I
>> live in IL, and we don’t have a trainer, just one person that thinks they
>> know it. I had to learn everything myself. As of right now, I’m am working
>> twords a goal in training others to use assistance technology for blind and
>> deafblind. I will receive my full training hopefully in June. But as of
>> right now, I’m trying to learn as much I can now. So feel free to contact
>> me off list if you want training over email, or Apple’s iMessage, or over
>> the phone. I don’t know a whole a lot, but know enough to get around your
>> Mac quite well.
>>
>> There is a deafblind mailing list called dbtechies, if you want to join
>> too.
>>
>> I learned a lot of tips and basic things for both Mac, and iPhone at
>> www.htb2.com. There is a group of blind that talks and discuss about
>> everyday technology for the blind.
>>
>> Also if you are serious that you need this for your profession, maybe
>> check out Mac for the blind, or Fedora Outlier. Just some ideas.
>> As for surfing the internet, and you mentioned about you just see tabs
>> but not the page. If you go to the right and pass the tabs and see HTML
>> contact, you will need to interact. That is done by holding Vo shift down.
>> Or deinteract by holding VO shift and hit up arrow.
>>
>> Also here is a tip, If you want to google search or type an address in
>> Safari, just hit cmd l, that will take you to the address bar.
>>
>> I know there is an steep learning curve, and without no training, it can
>> be very very frustrating. Please, don’t give up, it will be worth it.
>> Daniel Hawkins
>> - Posted from my Macbook Pro
>>
>> 2012 15in. Macbook Pro
>> 2.3 Quad-core i7
>> 4GB DDR3
>> 500GB HDD
>>
>> Dual Boot:
>> Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
>>
>> On Jan 9, 2014, at 7:00 AM, April Brown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your help!
>>
>> Since dictation won't do what I need it to do in Pages, I'll try to find
>> something that will. Just not right now. I've still got to many little odd
>> things I don't know how to do on my new computer, and it exhausts me trying
>> to figure them out.
>>
>> As for VoiceOver, I tried to run training program three times over the
>> last few weeks, and couldn't get it to do what it was supposed to do within
>> the program. I printed off a many page document from AppleVis a few days
>> ago, and tried that yesterday. Extremely frustrating. I was able to get
>> it to work in Pages about as well as the regular reading program. As for
>> on the Internet, not at all. It read the tabs and nothing on the pages.
>> I'm setting it aside for now.
>>
>> Everyone usually comes to me for computer tech advice,
>> reformatting, and more. When I read the comments and questions on this,
>> and other blind computer sites, I feel like I'm reading a combination of
>> Greek and Chinese. I'm totally lost.
>>
>> I'd rather spend the next couple of weeks doing what I can do.
>> Rather than spending them trying to figure out how to do something, that a
>> person could show me how to do correctly in five minutes. Somehow there is
>> a missing key and I have to figure out what it is. Or better yet, have
>> someone show me.
>>
>> In a couple of weeks, I have my tech evaluation for the state. Or
>> maybe they're just going to set the date, I'm not sure. It takes forever to
>> get through the state program. I've been working on it for six months.
>>
>> I'm also slowly learning braille. I figure I will have to use a
>> braille display at some point. Talking for the dictation program exhausts
>> me, and makes my jaw hurt. Due to hearing loss, I have trouble
>> comprehending spoken words, so VoiceOver may not work for me either.
>>
>> I will keep checking back to learn new computer skills. At this
>> point, I'm not sure I have anything to offer anyone else. I don't even
>> recognize a tenth of the programs mentioned.
>>
>> Thanks for all your help.
>>
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