Hi David Taylor,

       Thanks for your information. I will keep that in mind and try to 
figure out what it means. I posted on another thread what I'm really 
thinking about this. As a writer, I will have to be able to use Twitter. So 
I will be creating a step-by-step guide for me to use. Apparently only a 
different step-by-step guide for every single webpage. And maybe someday 
I'll figure out what all those strange terms mean that are listed on the 
voiceover help pages.

     I design websites, and I still have no idea what is meant by auto web 
spot, web spot, web rotor, sweet spot, and a dozen other unrecognized terms 
in this paperwork.  I can only imagine what someone has never used the 
Internet for more than e-mail or maybe checking Facebook would think when I 
try to figure this out. Baby even more lost than me.

Thanks for your help and I'll be checking back in.

Have a nice day,

April

On Friday, January 10, 2014 8:53:39 PM UTC-5, David Taylor wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Actually, you’ve picked pretty difficult sites to start with there. 
> Twitter, for instance, has all sorts of available keystrokes for reading 
> things, but VO isn’t perfect on there, usable but not perfect.  Most Google 
> sites have become awful and most of us don’t use an awful lot of Google 
> features other than GoogleGroups via email, Youtube and search. Also, 
> reading a VO manual doesn’t explain to a sighted person how a blind person 
> generally navigates. For instance, I, and many I know, would turn hick nag 
> on and enable single letter navigation keys to get any sensible use of the 
> web. This is done in the commanders section of the VO utility.
>
> Also, I suspect your VO is set to go to the top left of every screen 
> rather than to the cursor position, so you will probably have to uninteract 
> with things, find the HTML area, interact with it, etc. This is changed in 
> the Navigation section of the VO utility.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
> On 10 Jan 2014, at 07:43 pm, April Brown <[email protected]<javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
> Please help me.
>
> I can design a website with HTML and CSS sheets, working links, and 
> shopping cart, and  can't figure out how to make VoiceOver work.
>
> I've probably read every online manual I can find.  And still, it's a no 
> go.
>
> I spent probably two hours on it today.  Somehow, it did almost work in 
> Mail.
>
> As for the Internet.  I tried every key combination listed in all the web 
> manuals I down loaded and printed to no avail.  Sure, it would the top line 
> that says  "
> File, Edit,"  etc...  One time, I even got it to read the left pane in 
> Twitter.  I still cannot get it to read posts in Twitter, these forums, 
> Google Plus, or Facebook.
>
> Can someone please treat this old web designer like someone who has never 
> turned on a computer and tell me the steps to use VoiceOver to read a 
> simple webpage.  I figure, if I can learn to use it on Twitter, I can 
> figure the rest out.  If I can just figure out how to get it to leap from 
> the menu bar to the web page.
>
> Than k you,
>
> April Brown
>
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