Oh, my, I had a horrible time with VI, because I didn’t RTFM, of course, and I 
couldn’t get out of it. More and more control characters kept appearing from my 
attempts to press escape and control-q, and then when I found that exiting was 
an obscure command like ZZ or something really disjointed, I complained to a 
programmer friend of mine. He said it was all completely logical. Now I know 
how some people feel when they learn Braille! :) anyway, Emacs is only slightly 
less intuitive to my way of thinking, but I took the time to RTFM before I used 
it. :)

Ok, I’ll bite, RTFM is Read the Frigging Manual. :)

Teresa

Slow down; you'll get there faster.

On Jan 11, 2014, at 6:57 PM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <[email protected]> wrote:

> hi Teresa, no problem, usually when i need that kinda editor, i would
> use a proper one, "vi" but that is just me , hides under a very solid
> table, that is all religion though.
> Best
> 
> 
> Sandi
> 
> 
> On 1/11/14, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Going to the terminal and typing "emacs" should be sufficient.
>> Sent from my braille plus 18
>> 
>> Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> hi, Sandi,
>>> 
>>> There might be some confusion here. Emacs is a desktop that you start from
>>> Terminal. Do you have this? i haven’t found it natively or on Macports or
>>> Homebrew, which you have to install. Can you tell me the steps you use to
>>> run it?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P.
>>> Feynman
>>> 
>>> On Jan 11, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Sandi Jazmin Kruse <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> am not sure how one would install emacsspeak, but emacs seems too be
>>>> installed on my version of ml,
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/11/14, Teresa Cochran <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I may google this today. I so don’t want to install from source, as I
>>>>> don’t
>>>>> have enough knowledge of command line to do this yet. I also don’t want
>>>>> to
>>>>> use VO with emacs, because VO is a bit unpredictable when you get
>>>>> outside of
>>>>> the shell.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Teresa
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's
>>>>> too
>>>>> dark to read."--Groucho Marx
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 11, 2014, at 6:59 AM, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, I've also wanted to use emacs with emacspeak for a while now.
>>>>>> Sent from my braille plus 18
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kjsc Radio <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all, just a simple question, do you know how I could compile emacs
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> work in the terminal? And how would i get it working? Thanks all.
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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