disappearing for whom?
I have one phone in my bag that I have used effortlessly since....2007, so
by the time I have to replace my phone again, it could be ages. And as I
expressed, Because so many people are disheartened with touch in general,
the button phones, new ones, show up to meet that market.
I am not getting a phone for anyone but me..and expense for me is based
on my productivity..
I always smile when someone says a technology is disappearing, they said
the same about so many over the years. Movies were supposed to fade
because of television for example.
Kare
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014, David Chittenden wrote:
It does not matter what you are comfortable with. Buttons on phones are
disappearing. At this point, touch displays are less expensive then displays
with physical buttons. So, buttons will be disappearing more rapidly now.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: [email protected]
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone
On 24 Jan 2014, at 6:54, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> wrote:
granted you can control many phones from a text message standpoint voice if
needful. I am not a texter in general sending, but some do choose to send
them to me. Still as expressed, it is logistics thing. I hate ear buds,
they never stay in my ear, I am not wearing your head lol.
Still if I can do what I wish faster just by pressing real buttons, then that
may be better for me.
Perhaps it too is a girl thing.
I am standing on the sidewalk in a dress and heels fiddling with m my phone
advertising to anyone...hey, look at that person who likely cannot see you
playing with that really expensive phone! wanna go bug her? smiles.
The nice thing is hat we both have choices and can individually meet those
choices and preferences as we desire. no us verses them thinking required.
To contribute some information of possible interest.
In Canada,
www.wirelessaccessability.ca
In the states,
www.mobileaccessability.org
I believe.
Both have detailed search engines where one can choose the specific features
that fit your individual lifestyle.
in my case there are 32 phones that I can try, I just wanted to ask about the
iphone because I am here.
Kare
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Alex Hall wrote:
Sorry, but I'm confused now. If you want to manage text messages and do other
tasks on any phone, and you can't see the screen, you are going to use speech
or braille no matter the platform. Given that, why not either use the earbuds
your phone comes with, or invest in bluetooth headphones to have wireless,
private speech? This would fix all your problems. Additionally, sighted people
are no better off when dialing menu options. The iPhone must be in speaker mode
(lowered from the ear) to accept input, so sighted or blind, everyone has to
switch to speaker long enough to touch the button(s) they want. The only
difference is that people will hear which buttons you press, unless you turn
speech off and are good at finding the proper buttons by clicks alone. Also,
the way the iPhones are designed, covering the speaker with your finger or
thumb muffles it quite nicely. I now automatically do that when I lower the
phone no matter what I'm doing, and it works well. Having phones talk and
switch to speaker is more commonplace now, with the advent of the buttonless
smartphone, and I really think it will be much less of an issue than you
imagine. I was hung up on the same thing as you when I considered switching,
but I don't even think about it anymore. I keep headphones with me (either
earbuds or my bluetooth ones), and they work perfectly. They also offer other
advantages, like issuing commands to Siri without needing to touch my phone at
all, or answering/hanging up calls from the headphones alone.
On Jan 23, 2014, at 12:22 PM, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> wrote:
makes perfect sense.
for me though, there are just too many times places, extensions and so forth
for this to be reasonable.
I run both a production company and a media nonprofit. There are places people
etc. I may only call once, that I may only visit once etc.
My desire is taking out my phone dialing a call responding to what is needful
and getting on with my day. and indeed because of traffic, other people near
me, and the like I want the exchange to be between me and my phone not me my
phone and a bunch of strangers. same goes for listening to text messages and
sending them.
There are phones that allow for this, lg just issued a new one late last fall
its a 447.
I am in a circumstance where I can have whatever phone I said i wanted,
including any iphone from my provider for free just now. I had voted down an
iphone before, but wanted to check if anything on this front was
better...unfortunately it is not.
Thanks for your wisdom, I appreciate learning what I cannot do as much as what
I can.
Kare
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014, Eugenia Firth wrote:
Yes, and the commas you put before those extra numbers the longer the iPhone
waits before putting in the number. This will not work well for you if those
first extra numbers keep changing, unless you put in a separate contact named
so that you can tell which one you have. For example, Dallas Area Rapid Transit
has an option on their computer called Where's My Ride? I put in a separate
contact and deliberately named it Where's My Ride? instead of calling it Dallas
Area Rapid Transit. I hope this makes sense. I did this because the options for
calling up that particular choice was different from the scheduling choice;
sometimes I want scheduling and sometimes I want to check on the ride. Also, I
had to do it over traffic and other noises, and their awful computer kept
responding to any noise it heard.
Gigi
On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:23 AM, Daniel Hawkins <[email protected]>
wrote:
Yes, you can, depends how fast you at flicking left or right, or finding the
dial numbers. Yes, it is slightly slower than what a sighted person can do.
If you are dialing a number and you know you will have to press 1 for english,
press 4 for your next option. You can save it to your contacts with a comma or
two for a few second delay and add the menu number. Say for example put the
number 8004561234,1,4 and that will choose the menu options automatically for
you, and you don’t have to do anything.
This is how I save my bus scheduling number. I just put my bus number and put a
comma then what ever menu option that you know you wanted. And you can do this
with banks with your account number.
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro
2012 15in. Macbook Pro
2.3 Quad-core i7
4GB DDR3
500GB HDD
Dual Boot:
Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
On Jan 23, 2014, at 10:12 AM, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi folks,
I read often that it is difficult if not impossible to dial in a traditional
way using an iphone.
here is a simple example.
Let's say you are traveling, you must dial a location, then a user number, then
an a password. you then must make a series of choices from a menu.
these choices change based on information presented.
I realize many of you use your iphone for a number of different things.
However, I am asking about this specific task. can it be done often with
changing flexibility and effortlessly?
Thanks,
Karen
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