Ok, what exactly is MBraille?  I've heard of something I think called pocket 
braille lite, but had no idea what it was, so never tried it out.
On Feb 15, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> That's kind of what I was thinking.  Personally, I can't see why one would 
> want to carry this device around along with their phone.  There are so many 
> good typing options, such as Fleksy or MBraille,that really make typing 
> pretty fast.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> On Feb 15, 2014, at 5:38 AM, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Ah, I think this device will be good from beginners, but not much else. 
>> Notice that it simply uses voiceover commands, nothing more. 
>> 
>> David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you for providing the thickness of the device. Given the size and 
>>> what it does, I would expect longer battery life if they were using the 
>>> latest battery technology and power management firmware circuitry. I would 
>>> expect the times you give in a unit half its thickness. I have seen small 
>>> bluetooth controllers which are smaller than the size you state with better 
>>> battery life, and they do not break the laws of physics / current battery 
>>> and power management technology. The thing is, these technologies are more 
>>> expensive, not going against the laws of power dynamics.
>>> 
>>> Again, the device is not powering a speaker, visual display, braille 
>>> display, or speaker. It is only powering a bluetooth transceiver, basic 
>>> keyboard circuitry, and a couple LED lights (which use almost no power).
>>> 
>>> Compare this with my tiny bluetooth earpiece which has a mic, speaker, and 
>>> a dim LED light. It is big enough to cover my ear, which makes it 
>>> significantly smaller than a credit card, and it is just a little thicker 
>>> than my iPhone 5. It has a continuous battery life of 8.5 hours. So, no, I 
>>> am not impressed with the battery life in that unit, It could be better. 
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: [email protected]
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 15 Feb 2014, at 15:58, Buddy Brannan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It's 10 hours continuous, and I've gotten a week, at least, of light use. 
>>>> Bear in mind that that's 10 hours of continuous use, not 10 hours of 
>>>> normal use. It goes into sleep mode after 10 minutes, so that 10 hours is, 
>>>> in practical terms, quite long, as I doubt anyone will be writing "War And 
>>>> Peace" on the RiVO. I don't know what the battery life would be for 
>>>> practical use, because I haven't actually run it down to nothing yet (I 
>>>> charge it first). 
>>>> 
>>>> Also, keep in mind the size. It really is the size of a credit card. I 
>>>> checked. It's only a very tiny bit thicker than the iPhone 5S, hardly 
>>>> enough to even notice. So it's *very* small, and unfortunately, no one's 
>>>> figured out how to modify the laws of physics yet. 
>>>> 
>>>> My first reaction was also that 10 hours wasn't terribly long, but I, for 
>>>> one, don't think i'd type on *anything* for 10 continuous hours.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 9:52 PM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is $129 USD if my memory is accurate. It is bluetooth. Reading through 
>>>>> the online manual, I was struck with how short the battery life is in the 
>>>>> unit. I think the manual stated seven or eight hours of battery life. For 
>>>>> the cost, I would expect it to be closer to the battery life one gets 
>>>>> from bluetooth keyboards, or at least the battery life from the better 
>>>>> bluetooth braille displays. Again, for the money, I find it difficult to 
>>>>> accept that they did not utilise better power management circuitry / 
>>>>> firmware. After all, the device is not powering a braille display or 
>>>>> speaker.
>>>>> 
>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 15 Feb 2014, at 14:37, Jessica Moss <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This sounds interesting, I'm guessing this is a bluetooth device?
>>>>>> How much does it cost?
>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 8:17 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm glad that Mobience is posting about this now.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have one of these myself (thanks to Mobience), and, while the manual 
>>>>>>> might look intimidating (because it is very comprehensive), using RiVO 
>>>>>>> really is pretty easy once you get the hang of it. I met Jaewoo, the 
>>>>>>> CEO of Mobience, in December while at the dedication of the UN 
>>>>>>> accessibility center, and I expressed some skepticism of how easy this 
>>>>>>> would be to use, given that its default key layout is not ABC but 
>>>>>>> rather a modified, though mostly, QWERTY. I'm no speed demon with it, 
>>>>>>> but I'm certainly faster with the RiVO than I am with the on-screen 
>>>>>>> keyboard.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Look for an interview with Jaewoo on an upcoming Serotalk podcast 
>>>>>>> (either Serotalk or Triple-Click Home, I expect), along with a brief 
>>>>>>> demo of RiVO, which I have to edit this weekend. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --Buddy
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Ein Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'd like to introduce a small product our company makes for iOS 
>>>>>>>> VoiceOver and Android TalkBack users. It's called RiVO. We have seen 
>>>>>>>> blind people use their smartphones quite well with RiVO. I'm trying my 
>>>>>>>> best to make people know about the availability of this product.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> RiVO is a revolutionary keyboard-like remote originally made for Apple 
>>>>>>>> iOS VoiceOver users. The name stands for Remote interface to 
>>>>>>>> VoiceOver. Being about the size of a credit card, it is highly 
>>>>>>>> portable and yet comfortable with big keys. There are 12 keys in the 
>>>>>>>> middle just like telephone keypad, and there are 4 additional keys on 
>>>>>>>> the left and on the right, respectively.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> VoiceOver is an innovative technology from Apple and you can enjoy it 
>>>>>>>> like a breeze with RiVO. You can also type and edit text fast and 
>>>>>>>> easy, control music simple and handy. These features surely make RiVO 
>>>>>>>> users to use a greater number of apps easily every day compared to 
>>>>>>>> VoiceOver users without RiVO. RiVO supports iPhone, iPad and iPod 
>>>>>>>> touch. Android TalkBack is another innovative technology from Google, 
>>>>>>>> and Android version of RiVO is also available.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Let me list some naive comments from RiVO users around the world:
>>>>>>>> - RiVO is the most accurate and efficient tool for the blind to use 
>>>>>>>> smartphone.
>>>>>>>> - I have 275 apps on my iPhone and RiVO is really valuable and helpful.
>>>>>>>> - Alphabet typing becomes extremely fast with RiVO.
>>>>>>>> - RiVO is a must-have accessory that many blind people will appreciate.
>>>>>>>> - I have RiVO with me all the time.
>>>>>>>> - Getting beyond different levels of the gestures are extremely faster 
>>>>>>>> with this keypad.
>>>>>>>> - RIVO's smallQWERTY is superior to the old method of alphabet entry.
>>>>>>>> - I use iPhone and RiVO every day, all day long.
>>>>>>>> - RiVO is an indispensable accessory to the blind.
>>>>>>>> - RiVO enables me use my iPhone precisely and quickly while on the 
>>>>>>>> move.
>>>>>>>> - RiVO makes me use my iPhone without having to be conscious of the 
>>>>>>>> surroundings with my gesture actions.
>>>>>>>> - RiVO gives me the convenience and freedom to use iPhone just like 
>>>>>>>> those who can see.
>>>>>>>> - We really love this wonderful keyboard that you guys have made 
>>>>>>>> usable for us!
>>>>>>>> - I love my RiVO! I keep it in my pocket all the time.
>>>>>>>> - I am very happy with the keyboard's performance on both of iOS and 
>>>>>>>> Android platforms.
>>>>>>>> - RiVO can provide relief to many users who are struggling with 
>>>>>>>> touchpad interface.
>>>>>>>> - We were working with a customer who is blind, can only use one hand, 
>>>>>>>> and has cognitive disabilities. RiVO gave him better access than he 
>>>>>>>> had ever had before to a desktop or iOS device.
>>>>>>>> - RiVO will become a true part of my iPhone experience, and will make 
>>>>>>>> the iPhone so much easier to use. You have brought a wonderful device 
>>>>>>>> into our lives.
>>>>>>>> - This little gadget will definitely change the way I work with my 
>>>>>>>> iPhone. My right arm is feeling better already.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> RiVO is surely not for everyone. However, if you're not good enough or 
>>>>>>>> just slow at using iPhone with touch interface, if you miss the 
>>>>>>>> comfortable keyboard at home while you're away from home, if you want 
>>>>>>>> to keep your iPhone safely in your pocket or bag while on the move, if 
>>>>>>>> you want to leave your iPhone plugged in the speaker while sitting on 
>>>>>>>> sofa or while in bed, or if you want to use your iPhone more 
>>>>>>>> comfortably and play with it all day long, RiVO can be a boon 
>>>>>>>> companion to help you use iPhone better than ever and unlike everyone 
>>>>>>>> else.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I hope RiVO is a convenient accessory to help you find, explore and 
>>>>>>>> enjoy the possibilities of your smart devices and fabulous apps out 
>>>>>>>> there that make your life easy.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks and best wishes,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mobience Inc.
>>>>>>>> RiVO guide: http://mobience.com/rivo
>>>>>>>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rivo.page
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Control from palm to pocket: 
>>>>>>>> http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/article/rivo-control-palm-pocket
>>>>>>>> A portable QWERTY solution for touch devices: 
>>>>>>>> http://www.dsb.wa.gov/services/atscoopaugust13.shtml
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