So what are you saying? You intend to go forward with banner advertising? On May 16, 2011, at 15:08, Randall Arnold wrote:
> We'll have to agree to strongly disagree on the topic, Jeremiah (with the > exception of DEX). And the council has been fully transparent; > communications have been forthcoming and and any oversights quickly addressed. > > Randy > (sorry for top-posting. Frigging Ovi) > > From: Jeremiah Foster <jerem...@jeremiahfoster.com> > To: List for community development <maemo-community@maemo.org> > Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 7:20 AM > Subject: Re: Banners on maemo.org > > > On May 1, 2011, at 13:47, Randall Arnold wrote: > > > Maybe I'm just thick in the head, Jeremiah... but I don't quite get your > > position. Seems like an overreaction to what's proposed. > > > > No one is talking about commerce here. For now it's community contests and > > the like. I'd agree if the discussion was about becoming a web store, but > > we're just formalizing a very basic banner program. > > > > But rather than just argue I'd like to know how you would approach > > something like the MeeGo coding contest. Are you against ANY sort of > > maemo.org advertising for it, or just banners? Or do you disagree with the > > contest itself? > > To be clear - I'm all for a Maemo coding contest. I am totally against > advertising on the Maemo site. > > And lets be honest, we are talking about commerce here. The banner is a style > explicitly associated with advertising. Even if the current banners are not > being monetized it is a short step to that happening. If Maemo were > something original, if it weren't built on Debian and Debian's social > contract as well as the Debian tools and Free Software, I'd say "go ahead, do > as you please." But Maemo isn't original, it is almost wholly derivative. > Taking someone else's software and putting banners all over it is a > questionable practice in my mind. > > If the current council wants Maemo to become a commercial entity it needs to > make sure it communicates that in no uncertain terms. It also needs to return > changes back from Maemo to Debian to be in compliance with the GPL. There is > a project for this called "DEX" and I strongly advise the council and all > members of Maemo to look into it and participate. This project was created > explicitly for Debian derivatives like Maemo. Canonical's CTO is actively > moving patches from Ubuntu back to Debian through DEX. Maemo should do this > too. > > I think the council needs to be more transparent about its intentions, > statements like "even Maemo itself is not completely and specifically open > source" are wrong and misleading. This is what leads many to believe that the > banners are a step on the road to ads on the maemo.org site. > > Regards, > > Jeremiah > _______________________________________________ > maemo-community mailing list > maemo-community@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community _______________________________________________ maemo-community mailing list maemo-community@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
