On Oct 3, 2011, at 13:53, robert bauer wrote: > > I understand that there may be further objections on the general Council > > strategy, but lets try to discuss the ones that are preventing us to > > prepare a common statement. > Yes, please say what you disagree with rather than holding reservations.
My focus _will_ be software development, so I disagree that the statement says that the council won't focus on that. I also am not interested in changing the governance of Maemo - it seems to work and would just be confusing to move to a TSG model. Other than those two objections I'm in agreement. > > It seems we need a balance then between Robert's urgency and a common > agreement. I don't feel the same urgency but I'm willing to be flexible > enough to try to support the goal of "getting something out now." If we want > to create something common, then we'll have to take the time to come to an > agreement. I did not sign up to run a non-profit, I don't have time for that, > I signed up for helping ensure Free Software remains free and that developers > know their options and that the community can preserve what it considers > valuable to the best of its ability. > > > Well you did agree that Council should maket an announcement by October 1. > It is now October 3. The council announcement says nothing about a > non-profit. > > > We need to address later objections after announcement, and hopefully > > focus on real work. > > > > As Robert has pointed out, others are moving on as well, and for the > > moment, we as Council are invisible. > > This is why we should have these discussions on a mailing list - so it is > public. Transparency is of the utmost importance. In fact, I'm going to cc a > public list so that they can see these discussions and note that we are > working and that the community can participate. > Of course, the community can participate. The announcement was to be put on > the community list (I think this one should be on the developers mailing list > as well). It contains two proposals, not two dictatorial decrees. > > > > > Having statement with reservations will not do us any good. I think it > > is very important to demonstrate the unity of the council in front of > > the community. > > What is the benefit of "unity" in this situation? Don't forget that most > don't even see us as legitimate. :) > Qole is the only one I am aware of that sees us as illegitimate and he is > wrong. My history from the last 6 months is the most important thing is to > be active rather than inactive. I agree. Then lets move forward with the announcement - I don't want to hold it up. Regards, Jeremiah [snip] _______________________________________________ maemo-community mailing list maemo-community@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community