I wish we could stop wasting time on Estel and keep maemo alive, this is a time where we have to band together more than ever :)
Sent from my iPhone On Nov 12, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Niel Nielsen <nie...@gmail.com> wrote: > understood Mate, never considered you an enemy, sorry if that wasnt clear in > that mail. I have always respected you a lot :) > > /Niel > > On Monday, November 12, 2012, Arie Mark wrote: > Neil I was never an enemy, I have always respected council and what they have > done, especially during your term. No one has done more damage to the council > name than Estel. Did he deserve a community device yes, did he act childish > afterwards, yes. I want to publicly state some old maemo users asked me to > run so Estel didn't get voted into council but sadly he did. We dug our > graves and now we can lay in it. Please ban Estel from the mailing list or at > the very least limit him from number of mails he can send to the > Mailing list daily. I want Estel to stay around. The old Estel, not the > current one. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 12, 2012, at 11:01 AM, Niel Nielsen <nie...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> While you are right about that IP not for certainty belongs to the same >> router (btw its called dynamic IP), it could hold as evidence anyway. >> 1 it is very - very - unlikely that the IP would be dynamically assigned to >> another router, which would then connect to Maemo. >> 2 despite ISPs being assigned dynamically, very likely the same router >> would keep the IP, even for years >> 3 might not even be dynamic, X can sign up (pay) to be guaranteed a static >> IP (this would actually just be a reserved, dynamic IP) >> >> It is sad to read this trolling, inconstructive, critisism of working >> council, Estel, is your goal to dismentle the community? Even a previous >> 'enemy' of mine (no worries Arie, no worries, you had some valid critism) is >> going against you Estel. I think you, even off council, would help and get >> more benefits, from assisting in the hard times confronting the community et >> al. >> >> /Niel >> >> On Monday, November 12, 2012, Ilya Skriblovsky wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Just want to add some fresh opinion to this horrible flame. It's "fresh" >> because I don't really know the background: I don't know why Estel was >> banned and why it is so opposite to the Council. >> (Though I'm subscribed to this list, I'm rare reading it further subject >> line because starting with Community Awards discussion in June, 95% of mails >> here are full of flame and lacking of any constructive). >> >> But this situation seems very ugly to me. Screenshot with blurred IP >> addresses is certainly not an evidence at all. If screenshot was with exact >> IP match as Mohammad said, then I miss the point for blurring other IPs. >> If all blurred IPs are the same and same with Estel's, please publish >> original screenshot. If they differ — please remove the ban, admit your >> mistake and stop this shame. >> >> (By the way, even if all IPs are the same, it is not 100% evidence of >> identity of these accounts since if mentioned Polish network provides >> variable IP addresses, it's not a wonder if several IPs will accidentally >> match somewhen. Deep login history research is the only way to be 100% sure.) >> >> Yours, >> Mitrandir >> >> >> 2012/11/12 twilight...@gmail.com <twilight...@gmail.com> >> On pon 12 lis 2012 14:58:00 CET, Reggie Suplido >> <reg...@internettablettalk.com> wrote: >> >> > Stop playing with community man. Here's the proof: >> > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7gWTNeCMAAyhVX.png >> >> Another thing about this pathetic incident - I see few other names listed >> there. While "Letsee" was my account - that I have never concealed in any >> way, signing posts from there as "/Estel" - there is also aquamarine. >> >> Who is that person and what happened with this account? Was it banned in >> Reggie's madness too? Have this person tried to contact TMO admins, or just >> gave up on Maemo, after being treaten like that? >> >> /Estel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> maemo-community mailing list >> maemo-community@maemo.org >> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> maemo-community mailing list >> maemo-community@maemo.org >> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community > _______________________________________________ > maemo-community mailing list > maemo-community@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
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