http://maemo.org/community/council/2014-09-02_meeting_minutes/


Meeting held 2014-09-02 on FreeNode, channel #maemo-meeting (logs)

Attending: Craig Woodward (Woody14619), Gido Griese (Win7Mac), Ruediger 
Schiller (chem|st), Paul Healey (sixwheeledbeast), Jussi Ohenoja (juiceme), 
Philippe Coval (rZr), Niel Nielsen (nieldk), Peter Leinchen (peterleinchen)

Absent: Joerg Reisenweber (DocScrutinizer05)

Summary of topics (ordered by discussion):

    * NielDK's resignation
    * Discussion on Maemo e.V. and Council rules
    * Code of Conduct


Topic (NielDK's resignation):

    * NielDk joined in even he was not expected to appear after his resignation 
post.
    * NielDk explained his view on Maemo.org and council/e.V. and the reasons 
that lead to his decision. I think this quote of NielDK [23:36]: "Let me extend 
a bit, I think Doc is correct in wanting the council to be the speach organ for 
the community, towards board, but it is not deciding what the board should 
accept or do (eV or HiFo), the board cant legally 100% function like that" 
expresses it the most.
    * At the end of the meeting NielDK was convinced to resign from his 
resignation. And keep staying active member of Council and board of MC e.V..

Topic (Discussion on Maemo e.V. and Council rules):

    * The discussion faded into the transition to maemo e.V. and again the 
Council rules.
    * Another quote of Woody14619 [23:40] explains the situation we are in: 
"There are 3 points of contention: (legal) ownership/liability, (technical) 
operation, and (community) input and direction. Splitting liability from 
operation is the issue."
    * Board (e.V.) is the legal representation of maemo.org. And will take all 
legal responsibilities.
    * The role of e.V. seen by DocScrutinizer is only acting as cashier. But 
this does not fit the structure!
    * Another reason for clashing seems to be the pretending of "council 
rules". Council will still be elected by garage members (no change).
      But council election rules may be changed by board (2/3 majority).
    *

    * Short conclusion (by peterleinchen): Council does not operate maemo.org, 
but eV does. Council is concentrator of community will (and speech organ to 
board/e.V.). Council will be elected from garage.m.o members. Council cannot 
force board to act illegally.
      Board is the legal owner (legally responsible). Board is therefore the 
entity that "governs" maemo.org. Board can change bylaws (also: council 
election rules) by 2/3 majority.
      The MCeV is an entity and chain of command is "General 
Meeting>Board>Council"
    * DocScrutinizer joined the channel after the meeting and claimed he just 
defended the "MAEMO COUNCIL AND ELECTION RULES"
    *

    * Question came up, how much member really care about the community or 
whether community is already gone (due to so less votes (~100) against sent out 
tokens (~5800).

Topic (Code of Conduct):

    * RzR asked about to set up a Code of Conduct for maemo.org.
    * Please see the links as examples, like debian kde github mozilla


Action Items:

    * N/A

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peterleinchen
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