Hi Jeff,

For the Python question, all you need is the 'xterm' package. It's called
OssoXterm or something. I don't have the URL, but it was real easy to find
on the maemo site. I've reflashed my N800 3 times and found it there (not
reflashing due to problems.. testing ported software on it).

I get the same problem as you with the x11vnc not responding to clicks on
the docking/application bar. It's frustrating as heck because it was
inversely so neat to even find a vnc server for this. It is definately an
x11vnc issue as I tried 2 different VNC viewers, and if I maximize
applications I can still register clicks in that area.

If x11vnc worked 100%, it would be VERY useful. For example, my LInux
desktop machine can save VNC sessions to a file, and convert them to AVI,
which is much more powerful for end users than simple screenshots. I'm
looking forward to a solution for this also.

Scott


On 4/7/07, Jeffrey Barish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Saturday 07 April 2007 20:20:46 Acadia Secure Networks wrote:

> Jeffrey,

>

> are you certain that the VNC problem you are experiencing is causing the

> 802.11 to be dropped?

My theory was that the N800 drops the WiFi connection when the screen
blanks, and I know that the screen blanks when the N800 does not detect any
user events.  So my guess was that the problem was due to lack of taps or
button pushes, not inactivity of the VNC connection.  I did not mean to
suggest that dropping WiFi was related to my other question about
insensitivity on the left side of the screen.  My theory may be completely
wrong.  It seems to me that VNC activity is insufficient to prevent the
screen from blanking, but perhaps the N800 drops the WiFi connection when it
goes into a state beyond blanking the screen, and perhaps VNC activity is
sufficient to keep the N800 out of that state.  What I see is that my VNC
viewer becomes catatonic after a period of inactivity and at the same time I
can no longer ping the N800.  I have to wake up the N800 by tapping the
screen.  The N800 then reestablishes the WiFi connection and I can again use
the VNC viewer.  It's possible that I lose the connection to my VNC viewer
after a period of both no user events and no VNC activity.  In any case, I
would like for the VNC connection to stay alive so that I don't have to
physically access the N800.  Is there a way to configure the N800 so that it
stays fully awake as long as it is on external power?

> I also use VNC and experience the problem of the

> left hand side of the virtual screen not responding to  mouse clicks. I

> am using Tightvnc as the VNC client running on Windows XP SP2. However,

> I do not experience loss of the 802.11 connection due to inactivity of

> the VNC connection.

Interesting to know that you see the same behavior, even though we are
using different VNC viewers.  Sounds like a bug in x11vnc, no?

 I looked at the HowTo for setting up usbnet (
https://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowToSetUpUsbNetworkingDebian).  I hope that I
don't have to go that way (although I suspect that usbnet would work faster
and more reliably than WiFi) because there is much in that document that I
don't understand.  For example, step 5 says:

> Now you need to configure the network on the device. Add the following

> lines to /etc/network/interfaces on the 770 and comment out or delete
the

> existing usb0-entry:

Once again, I am baffled as to how I am supposed to modify the contents of
a file on the N800.  Is there a console that permits me to navigate to the
appropriate directory?  Is there an editor that permits me to make the
necessary changes?  Am I supposed to install these things?  I hate to expose
such prodigious ignorance, but I must have missed something in the tutorial.

My goal is to get VNC working (pretty much there) so that I can view and
interact with the N800 from my desktop system.  Then I would like to get NFS
working so that I can mount the desktop system on the N800.  I will do
program development on the desktop, and test the program by switching to the
VNC viewer to run the program on the N800.  The transfer of the program to
the N800 would happen transparently thanks to NFS.  I need to mention that I
am writing the program in Python, so there is no issue of cross-compiling.
 As far as I can tell, I don't need scratchbox, although I am installing it
now anyway.

Speaking of Python, there's something else I haven't figured out: How do I
run Python?  It's already installed, right?  Again, I seem to need a console
so that I can run the python command -- or a Python shell.

Jeff

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