On 10/7/2010 11:00 AM, Michael Scherer wrote:
Le jeudi 07 octobre 2010 à 10:22 -0400, Greg Harris a écrit :

You hit the point precisely. Mandriva's backports was a terrific idea
that does not succeed because (1) it is disabled by default and the
means to enable it as an update medium are made obscure by intention and
design and (2) the strange attitude taken, by some maintainers at least,
that anyone using backports is on their own ("Backports are not
supported!").
Well, when the backport was made without asking to developers first ( as
it happened with gwibber back at mandriva ), yes, the only thing I can
say is "I do not support it, because I didn't do it, nor was able to
test it correctly'.

If we tell "we do not have the ressources to fully test a backport, so
let's not do it", people are unhappy.
If we say "ok, here it is, but we didn't test, you are on your own",
people are unhappy.

As said by sinnerBOFH, if people want better backports, this requires
more ressources, there is no magic.

I certainly agree, and mean no disrespect to you and other maintainers who generously contribute their time and energy. But the Mandriva implementation of backports is not a solution for those who want a continuously updated distro. It works for me and I appreciate that it's there. But if you are going to design a new and appealing alternative, the effort required to make backports really known and useful needs to be taken into account.

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