----- "Maarten Vanraes" <maarten.vanr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Op donderdag 24 maart 2011 11:18:03 schreef Olivier Blin: > > Wolfgang Bornath <molc...@googlemail.com> writes: > > >>> It can't be "free" and have "non-free" firmware... previously > the > > >>> firmware only were on the Live CD's. I am not sure anything has > been > > >>> changed in that regard (i.e. I didn't see the matter get > discussed > > >>> yet). > > >> > > >> They were also on the PowerPack images, and they are installed > > >> automatically over a network install > > > > > > But to be installed via network you have to have a network > connection > > > first, n'est-ce pas? > > > That's what this thread is about. > > > > It is now also about "in which media should we include non-free > > packages?" :) > > no, about if they are really non-free... stuff released as BSD is free > in my > book. if they don't comply, they could be sued for all i care, but > it's still > free. Well, even if they say the source code is BSD, if: 1)The source is not provided (under a free license) 2)The source can't be compiled with a free toolchain then it is non-free, and most likely the license is wrong, and they have chosen to relicense from BSD to a proprietary licence (which BSD of course allows). Compare e.g. Darwin and Mac OS X. Since Mac OS X is has some originally BSD source code, must Apple provide me with complete Mac OS X source code? If they don't, do I have grounds to sue? No. Is it Free? Most definitely not. Regards, Buchan