2011/6/26 Michael Scherer <[email protected]>: > Le dimanche 26 juin 2011 à 11:58 +0300, atilla ontas a écrit : >> 2011/6/26 Wolfgang Bornath <[email protected]>: >> > A short reality check from userside: >> > >> > If foo-1.0 is in Mageia 1 and foo-1.1 is released upstream >> > - foo-1.1 will likely be integrated in Cauldron very soon after >> > - users will request to have foo-1.1 in Mageia 1 >> > - if Mageia will not provide it then there will soon be local >> > repositories where local packagers will do a "backport" for their >> > friends. >> > >> > This may not be what Mageia backport policy will allow but we can not >> > avoid people doing and using this, no matter how many warning signs we >> > will publish. This has to be taken into account here. >> > >> > When a policy is found it has to be communicated very well, especially >> > if that policy means that the user can not have foo-1.1 in his stable >> > Mageia 1. >> > >> > This is important because former Mandriva users were used to get >> > almost all new versions backported, if not officially then in 3rd >> > party repos like MIB or MUD. >> > >> > -- >> > wobo >> > > >> As wobo mentioned, people like latest and greatest software. I think, >> except a few users will use unofficial 3rd party repos to get latest >> software. While i was maintaining MVT (Mandriva Turkiye) repository, >> our users asked for GNOME 2.32 while Mandriva have GNOME 2.30 on >> official release. > > And others people mentioned that people want also stable software and do > not want changes. But as I said, what people want is not as important > than what we can do, and so the decision is in the end of those that do > the work rather than what people want, because if no one does the work, > nothing happen.
Well, in principle this is correct, not in this case as I have explained as a very common example. You can decide whatever you want, if a user wants a certain package and his friend will pack it for him and puts it up on a server, publishing the existence - then you will see what happens. You know by experience how popular such 3rd-party repos can become (see MIB, MUD), just because somebody had a different view than the official view. In short: no matter what is more important or not, you have to find a compromise between the (understandable) search for optimal workflow, security on one side and the real world of the users on the other. I think, the key here is non-technical communication of the circumstances, like "why we can't have foo 1.2 as backport from Cauldron to Mageia 1". -- wobo
