Hi Currently our minimal system is pretty bloated (unless one install really minimal system without suggested packages).
For example, installing udev will bring in many GNOME packages. See https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1750 and https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=609 See the following require cycle: udev -> libglib -> glib2.0-common -> libgio -> libgvfs -> gvfs-> libgnome-keyring -> gnome-keyring -> lib64(gtk|gnome)* Why? Because manual requires are added else some stuff wouldn't work because they are dlopen()ed instead of being linked to Note that pixel, fcrozat & me broke those cycles years ago (early 2008). Eg: - create sub-package libgio2.0_0 which suggests libgvfs0 to break require/suggest link consolekit->glib->gvfs->hal But as we all know the empire always strikes back. Eg: now glib2.0-common requires the gio sub-package, which defeats its purpose. This was broken in "Add Requires(post) for gio modules list generation": http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/glib2.0/current/SPECS/glib2.0.spec?r1=499567&r2=499568&; What's "funny" is that we still carry that whereas gio-querymodules-* were then moved to the gio sub-package and are now called from there... I've just fixed that, but it would be nice if: - more people try to minimize minimal system - packagers watch what they're doing - some people watch minimal system size (maybe some bot should do that?). We may need to break further pkg cycles for minimal BS See you
