On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 21:00:58 +0200 philippe makowski <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi, > > how and when will we make the move ? > should we need to provide native systemd service files for Mageia 2 ? > > > some doc from Fedora for packaging : > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines:Systemd > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:ScriptletSnippets#Systemd I've had a very bad experience upgrading to systemd-sysvinit on my desktop Core i3 machine. The boot took forever, and I ended up giving up, booting from a LiveCD, and restoring the "sysvinit" package, which made booting the system OK again. Here are the relevant logs from #systemd on Freenode (I am rindolf): Oct 13 09:30:40 <rindolf> Hi all. Oct 13 09:31:02 <rindolf> Today systemd-sysvinit replaced sysvinit (on my Mageia 2 system after a urpmi upgrade), but after I rebooted my system won't boot. It got hang at the udev step (the first one). I recall that when I rebooted, it warned me that it couldn't find libsystemd-daemons.so.1 or something like that. How can I restore booting? Oct 13 09:45:28 <rindolf> Anyone? Oct 13 09:46:37 <MK_FG> rindolf, I suspect it just hangs not being able to detect your hard drives for some reason Oct 13 09:46:49 <MK_FG> rindolf, In that case, it should time out after a while Oct 13 09:47:07 <MK_FG> rindolf, But in any case, it should help to enable debug output Oct 13 09:47:10 <rindolf> MK_FG: well, now after I hit Ctrl+C it continues, but hangs again. Oct 13 09:47:17 <rindolf> MK_FG: how can I enable debug output? Oct 13 09:47:21 <MK_FG> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Systemd_problems Oct 13 09:48:01 <MK_FG> But it's all in the mans, too, if you'll end up w/o a browser Oct 13 09:49:14 <rindolf> MK_FG: I have a second computer. Oct 13 10:01:29 <rindolf> MK_FG: now it gets stuck on loading shorewall. Oct 13 10:01:36 <rindolf> MK_FG: it got stuck several times before Oct 13 10:01:51 <rindolf> MK_FG: and no matter how many times I press Ctrl+C it won't stop that. Oct 13 10:01:59 <rindolf> MK_FG: booting is slower than ever this way. Oct 13 10:02:07 <MK_FG> It should timeout eventually Oct 13 10:02:07 <rindolf> I thought systemd was supposed to make booting faster. Oct 13 10:02:17 <rindolf> MK_FG: "eventually" is the key word here. Oct 13 10:02:17 <sztanpet> works for me Oct 13 10:02:38 <MK_FG> Yeah, a minute or two by default Oct 13 10:02:38 <rindolf> sztanpet: what does work for you? Oct 13 10:02:49 <sztanpet> systemd operating as expected Oct 13 10:03:00 <sztanpet> but then again, i dont have your distro Oct 13 10:03:20 <MK_FG> But it's abnormal behavior, something should be fixed, not timeout and be killed on every boot Oct 13 10:05:48 <rindolf> sztanpet: someone once told me that "works for me" is the oldest excuse in the programmer's book. Oct 13 10:05:52 <rindolf> And it's not very helpful. Oct 13 10:06:15 <sztanpet> indeed Oct 13 10:06:26 <MK_FG> Neither is unconstructive criticism like "nothing works!" Oct 13 10:06:38 <rindolf> MK_FG: well, I told you what doesn't work for me. Oct 13 10:06:55 <MK_FG> I think you know what I mean Oct 13 10:07:15 <rindolf> MK_FG: no, I don't. Oct 13 10:07:25 <MK_FG> Well, nevermind then ;) Oct 13 10:09:50 <bochecha> rindolf, the default timeout can be 5 minutes (for services with legacy init scripts), did you wait that long? Oct 13 10:16:55 <rindolf> bochecha: some of the times. Oct 13 10:17:20 <rindolf> bochecha: I now tried a “failsafe” boot and systemd gets stuck on an infinite "Trying to load D-Bus" loop. Oct 13 10:18:29 <bochecha> possibly dbus doesn't start, and systemd tries again, and again and... ? Regards, Shlomi Fish -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ What does "Zionism" mean? - http://shlom.in/def-zionism I learned a lot from my teachers, and from my friends more than my teachers, and from my pupils the most. — Rabbi Hanina Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - http://shlom.in/reply .
