Am 30.07.2012 14:41, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
2012/7/30 Thierry Vignaud<[email protected]>:
On 28 June 2012 02:51, Thierry Vignaud<[email protected]>  wrote:
german keyboard: default to variant with enabled deadkeys instead
of"nodeadkeys variant"  (mga#3791)

Oups, why that?
As far as I'm concerned no deadkeys is the default for German users and
that's good!

Any reasons for this change?

Call it "Competitive analysis" if you want. Keyboards comes with those
little keys that are meant to produce accented characters in
combination with regular letters, and this how it works on Windows,
the platform most users will migrate from, and also on Mac OS X.

Regular users don't have any use of stand-alone-accent-characters. And
even with deadkeys it is easy to produce the standalone accent by just
pressing the key twice (so you can get backticks easily).
If you're a programmer and are using a nodeadkeys variant for that
reason, you're not the target population of a suggested default. (If
you know what is meant with "deadkeys" and "nodeadkeys", you're not in
target of that dialog, and have the knowledge to not accept the
default, but choose the nodeadkeys variant that is listed right next
to the regular variant).

The variant with deadkeys is called "German" without any addition for
a reason. If nodeadkeys were the expected/more common choice, then it
would be "German (international)" or "German (deadkeys)", like it is
the case for the US-variants.

So Olivier, do you agree with that change or not?

It may be logical but German users have been taught to use
"nodeadkeys" for ages. Changing this now just because of semantics
does not seem to be a wise move (I always use "German"). But OTOH it
is not such a big thing. It will cause the usual number of questions
in the forums ("MAG3 breaks my keyboard!") but this will vanish over
the years. :)

This must have slipped my mind...
I concur with wobo. This change will cause such forums posts but that will be solved soon after Mga3 release. The question is, how do other distros do it? A colleague just told me, his Ubuntu chose the no dead key variant by default.
What about Fedora and openSUSE or don't we care at all?

As for myself, I will just change it back on my systems so it's no big deal.

Oliver

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