Thanks Michael, Understanding for your explanation. But there is one issue which brought up a question. You are writing "launch of the Mageia project since the start some months ago". Am i misunderstanding, or did i think the plans just were born some days (weeks at the most) ago?
isadora 2010/9/20 Michael Scherer <[email protected]> > Hi, > > First, let me present myself. My name is Michael Scherer, and for those > that do not already know me, I am a member of the Mandriva packaging > community, and one of the 4 zarb.org admins. I am also involved in the > launch of the Mageia project since the start some months ago. > > I just went back from FUDCON 2010 Zurich yesterday evening and I have > been quite overhelmed by the amount of discussion that is going on at > the moment, and I must confess that I feel more than stressed by > everything that is going on, to the point I still didn't connect to irc > yet. > > Of course, we are all happy of the tremendous support of the community, > but more than 500 messages in 2 days is a little bit too much for me to > digest, and so I would like to share a few points : > > - please try to avoid sending emails like "i would like to help to > $FOO". While we are quite happy to see such mails, they are not very > helpful at the moment since we have to sort everything, and we cannot > accept help on $FOO yet. We have started to think about how we can > manage this, and we will likely soon setup a temporary wiki so people > can add their name ( likely tomorrow, once we have sorted the really > urgent stuff ), but in the mean time, I think people should wait a > little. I would also like to remind you that you can also wait for us to > ask for help, ie once we will need it. Let's say someone want to > translate the distribution in french. If you want to do it, do not say > "I want to translate". Just wait until we have something to translate > when we will ask for help, and then sent the email. Or add your name on > the wiki once it will be set up and announced. By acting this way, we > will be more efficient as we will not have to search back in the > archives to see who offered what, and have less mails to read > ( especially when we are very very busy ). > > - please try to not start long discussions about technical details > ( like the thread about kernel-libre, about server component ). While of > course we need to have technical discussions as every technical project, > I must remind everybody that we do have any kind of infrastructure for > the moment, so this is a little bit early to start. And discussing it > now when we have nothing to commit or anything is IMHO distracting us > from our priorities, and a source of future frustration for people, as > we shouldn't make any decision in a hurry. > > - please do not forget there is some priorities in setting up. As > someone who boast of having non existant skills in website on his blog, > I am quite delighted to see people are eager to do the work, but I think > we should first have a server to host the website before discussing of > the logo. And so one. The same goes for codename, flickr account or > others. So will I am happy to see that people are doing stuff that I > will never be able to do properly, I think they need to realize that we > are not ready to get contributions yet, and so that it will take time, > and waiting can be frustrating, so please cope with us. > > - in the same idea, while it is wonderful to see that people want to > start user groups in various country, I must remind the harsh reality > that we have nothing to use yet. So there is no hurry yet. If people are > really interested, I think it would be wiser to plan a little bit more > the creation of the and try to get information on what is needed to > manage a community, by reading books like "The opensource way", or "the > art of community". I have plenty of ressources on the subject for those > that want it, and I think it can take some time to digest. > > > and, as a more personal note, please do not register every possible > variation of the domain name. One of the few problems we faced while > searching for a name was that a good part of all names were already > used. And we painfully discovered that good names are a scarce > ressource. So in order to be good netizens, I think we should act > responsibly, and let others people use names even if not related to the > project. > > Now, I must be clea, I do not ask to people to stop all discussions, far > from it. You can discuss everything you want, but I would like to remind > everybody to think a little bit of those that will read all the emails > ( like me ), and how much time this will cost to them. If I spend 1 > minute on every mail since the start ( as I need to get them from the > web interface ), and since there was 520 mails in 2 days, this make 8 > hours to read everything properly ( without counting the 15 mails that > appeared in the mean time. > > And while I will be reading this, I will not be setting the > infrastructure or anything. > > Thanks for reading my boring mail and I hope to be back on you soon with > more interesting news. > -- > Michael Scherer > > _______________________________________________ > Mageia-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss > -- Alles is onmogelijk, als je het maar wil.
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