2010/9/21 Gustavo Ariel Giampaoli <[email protected]>: >> As a sign of good faith, they could maintain the primary servers and their >> related >> bandwidth. Heck, if a foundation is established, it's a win-win for >> everybody. >> They save money by having what were paid staff now volunteering, and the >> community saves the expense of server farm hardware and rackspace and monthly >> bandwidth costs. >> >> Your thoughts? > > You will leave your newborn in the "hands" of the same company whose > lack of direction caused this situation? > > Maybe I'm a "little" paranoid, but i think we should listen > ex-employes / developers. They know the sh*t from the very inside. Ah, yes, two ex-employees / developers which were actively involved with the development of the distribution over so many years.. Uh, oh, wait, no they weren't. I'm questioning whether they actually grasp all of the work required to put together a distribution. I also find it odd when I see statements from them on IRC which seems to be in conflict with others involved with this that they intend on going in a different direction independent of Mandriva. With all the people being brought aboard with Mageia from the Mandriva Linux community, I find it hard to believe that there has been established a consensus about this with all of the people involved and that they really want to do everything on their own and not care about keeping relations or anything with what they've been involved with on actual community basis and over longer times than either of these two.. Are you guys *really* planning on doing the whole distribution on your own totally independent of Mandriva without any interest of collaborating?
To me, these responses of Romain and Nicolas seems to confirm all the questions I raised earlier in this thread, suggesting that the fork and their motivations are personal and not out of concern and care for the community, despite these motivations officially given. I guess there's a reason for why they avoided these critical questions raised towards them, and rather chose to attack constructive attempts at doing what's in the best interest of the community in stead. But sure, I've only been actively involved with the development of this *community* distribution and on several other levels for a decade now, being amongst those involved for the longest time, while also being an ex-employee myself, I've primarily been active through the community independent of my employment nor imposing personal feelings towards company on the community. And I can also truly claim that I have an absolute full understanding of all the work an complexity involved in putting together the whole distribution and put tons of more hours into this on my sparetime and out of interest for contributing to the community, making me quite aware of the fact that you'll have a pretty darn hard time doing this and organizing the whole thing on your own. In all these claims about this being a community project and it being independent off people's employment and all, would you really find disgruntled ex-employees which has only been involved in this project through employment as the most trustworthy characters? How much time do they actually plan to invest themself into this project on their sparetime now that they're not employed by Mandriva? I can't really start telling how provoked I am over seeing this childish and truly community hostile attitude, or about the claims about through the liquidation of Edge-IT all of the talents and important people involved in development of the distribution disappearing, guess what, the majority of the staff working on the distribution for quite some time has actually been employed at Conectiva, not Edge-IT! But certainly, attention to actual details were never given much importance, were they..? Or were the people at Conectiva just considered less worth and not of any importance to the development of the distribution at all..? -- Regards, Per Øyvind _______________________________________________ Mageia-discuss mailing list [email protected] https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss
