That is just what I wanted to point out : all Linux users don't have the same objectives.
What will be Mageia's one?
I am a long date user of Unix (more than 20years) and Linux (since the beginning), mostly in command line, but I think that with light desktops like Gnome or E17 , we can break the mercantile (commercial) way of thinking the computer, and offer all Linux advantages to people who are not aware of other solutions. For example I have in my customers , old people who have some basic needs (like 90% of computer users) : internet, mail , be in touch through IRC, skype or other tools with their families. Why should we let Microsoft and computers vendors sell them expensive tools that they don't need? Linux is able to satisfy their needs at a low cost and cost is often a problem for old people with small pensions. Personnaly I don't like the thinking of being a small community not opened on the external world, and not looking what is good and well done by Apple, Ubuntu, Fedora and so on. I think that for these people there are already good distros like LFS, Sourcemage or Slackware. And Mandriva is not the one. It seems that Mandriva has began to look for end users needs but has not finished the job (for example english sentences and words in locale version during installation, no own identity in the look with the blue theme inherited from w95...). Doing nothing and staying in our small circle will encourage Microsoft and co to continue distributing sh**t to people, produce endlessly more powerfull computers for nothing... I don't want to participate to this movement and want to make proselytism for open source. Another word from microsoft users: they did not choose their distro, it was imposed to them. Today there is only one distro having really working in this way. I would like to see Mandriva to do so, but it won't...
So will Mageia do?
Wil it be a distro, form you , for me or or both?


Le 26/09/2010 19:12, P. Christeas a écrit :
On Sunday 26 September 2010, david wrote:
For example my wish would be a generalist distro (like ubuntu) for
newbies and/or microsoft users,...
Let me rant in a rather non-polite tone:
why does *every* Linux distro have to be for Windows users?? Why does every
product need to be targeted at stupid people? (obvious answer: there is lots
of them)

Can't we please keep building a distro for *Linux* users?
If people choose Linux, they shall obviously like Linux, not Windoze. It's
like we are trying to serve a vanilla ice cream to people who prefer
chocolate. Can we, please, keep making vanilla taste like vanilla? We had been
good at that, some years ago.

Lets see again what features had made us like linux in the first place:
  - It used to be light and fast. (not like KDE4 or win Vista)
  - It used to be able to run for months, even years without a crash or need to
reboot.. (not like knotify4 and pulseaudio)
  - It used to do all the things we wanted, with plethora of tools (not like
Gnome or Apple)
  - It used to allow us to configure either through gui tools, or through
cmdline and text files (not like the modern "desktop" trends).
  - It could connect to the network without the need of a GUI server/client
(not like networkmanager)
  - It was free from closed-source applications (not like Android)
  - It had allowed us to have a continuous desktop (+home) for many years,
including all the software upgrades, without need to format our disks every 6
months (not like Ubuntu or some KDE4 apps).

So, if we try to sell "better Windows", we'd better just give up and let
Micro$oft do their job, they are better at it.

On the other, marketing-wise, side, when we try to re-invent Windows, we just
admit that our Linux vision was flawed. And, of course, we let down all the
people that had believed our promises about Linux.

</rant>




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