On lundi 18 octobre 2010 at 02:20, Graham Lauder wrote : > On Sunday 17 Oct 2010 21:20:48 Renaud MICHEL wrote: > > Contrary to android and macos (and mandriva) which are backed by > > enterprises, mageia is a community project. > > So if you throw away the community, there is nothing left. > > No one is advocating throwing away the community, but being part of a > community has it's issues, decision making speed is one of them.
Yeah, it was a little exagerated, but that's how I understood the previous post when he wrote > > On dimanche 17 octobre 2010 at 03:11, LinuxBSDos.com wrote : > > > Instead of focusing on the needs of the community, why not start > > > thinking of building a distribution for main stream users. Because, if mageia would no care about my needs, I don't see why I would contribute to it. Because, beeing an egoist, I am willing to contribute first to have distro that suits my needs (which mandriva does quite well), and only secondly to have a distro that could fill most people needs (but that second point is anyway very important for me!). > In a > corporate environment people are hired to do a particular job, they are > hired for their expertise in their field and they, for that reason, have > the major in any policy in their particular area of responsibility. > However in a Community based OSS project everybody has the opportunity > to have their say and that can lead to conflict, god knows I sometimes > just shout at the screen: "JUST LET ME DO MY JOB, I HAPPEN TO BE GOOD AT > IT!!" and yea I can be a bit forceful at times. :D > > However, it is healthy and it's a strength that Corporates don't have. > Anybody who's been on big development projects will be able to rant long > and Loud about those F**** marketing guys keep changing the spec and > we're going way over budget and I'm going to...[insert mutilation of > choice]..to those a...@%*holes. Yeah, I know that all too well... > Well this Marketing/Training guy, often says the same thing about Project > Managers. :/ A good project manager is gift from the gods, because he > has a wide open communication track with HR and Marketing because he > realises that Users aren't developers, and the gets market research and > User experience surveys done before the project starts. All too rare > sometimes I think. An RFP or spec often gets written with no > consideration other than scratching the Writers itch and the problems > start. However that's another treatise entirely! :) > > The point is that sometimes it's better to step back and say "OK, this > isn't my field, let the guys whose field it is get on with it." Let me > stress however the sometimes and definitely not always. > > Now in the Mageia Marketing group we have Teachers with deep pedagogical > knowledge, we have Marketers and Communications people who are bloody > good at what they do, who have been involved in marketing FOSS projects > for years right up to and including a PHD in FOSS marketing. I hold it > up as a huge privilege to work with this group of excellent people, and > guess what, we are a community, a community with a shared goal, to > market Mageia in the best way we know how. > > I look to the Founders, I look at our Marketing team and I look at the > wider contributing community and I seriously believe that if Redmond > isn't quaking in it's boots it should be. I am certainly in no position to give advices to the marketing team, and I trust them in making a good job, as long as it doesn't dictate too much how the development should be headed. Obviously, marketing and developers teams will have to communicate a lot. The marketing guys telling to the devs which features are really needed to have a wider audience, and the devs showing the marketing guys the great features they are working on so that they can integrate it in their communication. cheers -- Renaud Michel
