On 23 October 2010 10:12, Morgan Leijström <[email protected]> wrote: > Den 2010-10-23 07:16:51 skrev Ahmad Samir: >> >> With the current installer you can select "customize" (instead of >> selecting KDE or GNOME) and uncheck all the options there when you >> click next the installer will even give you options to: >> - install/not-install X >> - install/not-install suggested packages >> - go with a really minimal system and not install even urpmi >> >> >> So, either it's a new user, he can select KDE or GNOME; or it's an >> advanced/experienced user, he can deselect all the packages he wants, >> and go with a very minimal system to begin with and then add the bits >> and pieces he wants. > > It is good so far. > > (And maybe we could add LXDE or other light environment as option like KDE and > GNOME for a noob that want to try put life in his old computer but is scared > off from customised mode) >
LXDE, as the default lightweight fallback DE, is installed by default if you select KDE or GNOME :) But if you want LXDE to be next to KDE and GNOME, then XFCE should also be added... but that would be a bit cluttered, IMHO. > But maybe there should be less packages included in the 2 or 3 complete > desktop alternatives, and instead after first desktop bootup open some noob > friendly program chooser/installer in accordance with Juergens part 2) above? > Well, you see, for a new user, in the first days, he probably doesn't yet know what is what, so he's grateful to find stuff just work, (a good text editor: kwrite, a terminal emulator: konsole, a familiar web browser: firefox... etc). It'll take him me some time before he starts to need to customise the system. > But, it IS convenient for most users to have at least Firefox by default, and > this and that.. have to put the limit somewhere. Maybe the user should > choose office suite afterwards, email program, another browser, and be > presented simple methods to select CD burnig, music player, video editing, > gaming etc. > > But, that raises next question: should Mageia propose a short list of programs > we propose, and how should thoose be chosen? Then maybe user thinks, oh is > there so few program and not this progam X that I like, although Mageia do > have it, but he need to use the full installer to see them... > > Need to be crafted so it without clutter give noobs a clear wiew, but at the > same time encourages and makes possible to use the whole repos when he knows > what he is after. > > Maybe just simply add a "proposed programs" section to drakrpm, and make it > open it by default, and make drakrpm start upon desktop boot until user cliks > a box to have it not to. So the user get the best served in his face, > without limiting his choices, nor he need to know yet another app, and we > need not do much development for it. > > BTW, it should configure normal repos automatically, and it should be more > noob friendly to add, with exlanations, and a button from drakrpm dialog. > Yes, but I see "proposed" == rpm suggests; I don't see a new user being able to make such decisions before he familiarises himself with the system, only then can he start uninstalling what he thinks he doesn't need. Bug reports / suggestions to change default apps were usually considered carefully and default apps do change if that bug report / suggestion is reasonable.... -- Ahmad Samir
