Marc Paré a écrit :
Le 2010-10-30 21:12, Graham Lauder a écrit :
On Saturday 30 Oct 2010 02:47:26 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
On Friday 29 October 2010, my mailbox was graced by a missive
from Kira<[email protected]> who wrote:
This one is already been replied: In some place in this world, some
countries don't have enough bandwidth to support such big downloading
data(May cause days...).
A might perfect solution is that making custom images according to the
need of downloader, but currently we don't seem to have such plan.
Fot such a case, a CD .iso that does a minimal install (with all
locales
offered), and leave the big packages (OO, Gimp, all the games etc)
to be
downloaded at leisure later.
Oh god nonono! You obviously have a broadband connection.
Cheers,
Ron.
CD or DVD, either is too big to download on my dialup. a 700meg cd
would take
a week to download considering that I have to keep phone line free
during the
day and early evening.(that's of course as long as the server supports
resuming and the download doesn't break, which of course you don't
find out
until the end, then you have to start all over. :/
Current Mandriva downloads can be resumed. (Sometimes have to do that
many times during DVD downloads.) You can resume from another server if
necessary. (Which I have already had to do when my nearest server went
down for maintenance.)
I use aria2 (console application), for which I've also configured Rpmdrake.
Just have to ensure that the downloader can resume. I think the default
downloader (wget ?) can resume as well.
People with limited connectivity want to be able to obtain media with
everything they are likely to need plus all the options if possible.
Very true. Although having to download the occasional program shouldn't
cause problems.
It's why I went with OpenSUSE rather than Ubuntu, Suse comes on a
dualsided
DVD, 64 bit one side, 32 bit the other, live gnome and kde sessions
on both
sides and lots of options so that you can install a full system of
your choice
from desktop to webserver without needing a broadband connection.
That is a fantastic way of doing it.
(Well, evidently not totally on the side of fantasy :) )
If the 32-bit is put on the first side, potential users with one-sided
dvd readers could still access what they need. 64-bit users would
almost assuredly having readers capable of reading both sides.
In less rich markets, many users would still have CD writers with DVD
reading capabilities, as long as it is one-sided.
Ubuntu on the other hand /only/ comes on CD with one DE and a basic
desktop
only install and it assumes you have a network connection, yet it
can't setup
a dialup connection during install, MDK 8.0 used to do that no problem.
If MDK 8 did it (on the "one" CDs I presume), it shouldn't be difficult
to ensure that on the first Mageia release.
Please, DVD and a way to obtain the media at a reasonable price.
The approach in Germany - 5 euros volontary donation sounds good to me.
Basically covering the cost of the DVD and mailing.
I still have this image of you passing out free ISOs at a trade show ... :)
Cheers
GL
Would there be a way to restore the capability for dialup connection
at install time?
That's currently available with Mandriva, unless I'm mistaken.
There is (at least was recently) a question for other media and network
connexion for download. The connexion could be dialup or other.
However there is the tricky problem of ensuring that the appropriate
dialup drivers are available. I understand that the "one" CDs have such
pilots, but not the "free" DVDs (which I use).
I like the Community approach that Wobo suggested.
+ 1000 :)
I think being decentralised (by local community) has the advantage of
being able to adapt to local conditions, as well.
Marc
- André
