2012/5/30 Anne Nicolas <[email protected]>: > Le 30/05/2012 12:43, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : > >> A. Request to open discussion logs of the board about the Mandriva >> agreement >> >> I'm referring to the announcements wrt the collaboration with Mandriva >> SA and the usage of the Mageia distribution as base for server >> products, as announced in the blog entry: >> http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/05/21/mageia-comes-full-circle/ >> >> 1. I am NOT against any of the points mentioned there, so pls do not >> take this as an unfriendly act or even a lack of trust in the board or >> single members of the board. This it is definitely NOT! >> >> 2. I respect the need for non-disclosure by the Mandriva SA side while >> these negotiations/discussions were going on. I also respect the fact >> that the internal discussions of the board about the matter were not >> to be held in public at that time. >> >> Now the announcements were made in public these reasons for >> non-disclosure are not valid any more. >> >> **Therefore I request the logs of the internal discussions of the >> board about this matter to be opened to the public and this opening >> being announced to the public.** >> >> I am positively sure that 2 weeks are more than enough to decide on >> this request. >> >> Reasons: >> >> 1. Transparency is a top requirement for such a project as Mageia. The >> more this transparency is needed if the matter is of great interest to >> all members of the Mageia community. If the transparency can not be >> provided because of valid reasons (as has been the case here) it >> should be established as soon as these reasons are not valid any more. >> >> 2. The following questions are not answered by a mere announcement: >> >> - was the decision to enter the agreement with Mandriva SA unanimous >> or were there votes against it? >> - if there were votes against it who were the people voting in favor >> and who votest against it? >> - what were the arguments of both sides >> >> These questions can only be answered by opening the internal logs >> concerning this matter. >> Again: this request only concerns the *internal* discussions in the >> Mageia board, not any discussions with external entities (namely >> Croset and/or Mandriva SA). > > > Here are the details. > > After first contacts, the discussion took place on council mailing-list (see > https://ml.mageia.org/l/arc/council/2012-03/msg00078.html). But after > Mandriva wish we did go on on closed discussions, as explained wy Wobo in > his mail. But at that point consensus was already there. > > Second step happened after a second meeting with Mandriva. We mailed a > summary of this meeting on board-private first and get an agreement of *all* > board members about the way we wanted to manage Mandriva proposal. > > Then on third step, a mail about all this has been sent directly to all > council members proposing a way to handle all this. Then people went > directly to pad to work on public announcement. Nobody expressed any > disagreement. > > You can see this pad, it's still available here: > https://pad.riseup.net/p/mdv-foundation > > You can also see all private discussions (mails) here: > http://svnweb.mageia.org/org/mails/board-private-mandriva-2012-archive/ > http://svnweb.mageia.org/org/mails/council-private-mandriva-2012-archive/ >
Thanks Anne and all members of Board / Council for the fast and understand way you handled this. Request closed (except for the contact issue) A good solution for the contact issue was given by Nicolas (IIRC): Send the request like I did to mageia-discuss (with this formal tag in the subect) and add the matching contact address (board or council) in CC. BTW:http://www.mageia.org/en/contact/ gives NOT FOUND when called from http://www.mageia.org/en/map/ -- wobo
