>>>>> "NB" == Norbert Bollow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
NB> Now the welcome messages are going out, at a rate of one NB> message every 6.6 seconds. This is on inexpensive hardware (a NB> Cobalt RaQ3) but the server is otherwise idle. At this rate, NB> it would take more than 36 hours to send them all out. I NB> consider this to be unacceptably slow (but it's not NB> catastrophic unless it's normal for your server to put ten or NB> more messages into the virgin queue per minute on the NB> avarage). There are a lot of unknowns here though. For example, we don't know if your rate limits are caused by MTA or network throttles. If your server is idle then i/o is suspect but we don't know if creating more outgoing qrunner processes would help you (by splitting up the queue hash space among parallel processes). Is your MTA spooling to the same filesystem that Mailman is spooling off of? If your MTA is throttling and it's running synchronously with the outgoing qrunner then Mailman may just be sitting around blocked on output to your MTA. Or maybe your disk subsystem can't take the pressure of Mailman reading off of it while your MTA is writing to it. What happens if you put them on different disks and/or controllers? And what effect does using some other filesystem (e.g. reiserfs) have on throughput? NB> What I'm really concerned about is the possiblity of a similar NB> thing happening on the bounces queue. On a busy system, you NB> can easily have bounces coming in with a rate greater than 10 NB> bounces per minute. Temporary network problems can easily NB> result in you getting a large number of bounces at the same NB> time. This could put so many bounces into the queue that NB> processing bounces becomes slower than the rate at which new NB> bounces arrive. Then the bounce-handler is permanently NB> screwed. I don't think we can correlate your outgoing queue draining behavior with any supposed behavior of the internal bounce queue draining. -Barry _______________________________________________ Mailman-Developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman-21/listinfo/mailman-developers