personalization works! Even better, it let me nail a bounce that was 
being forwarded through bigfoot to a place that was stripping all 
headers.

User `[EMAIL PROTECTED]' removed from list: ahl.

the bounce was coming back from:

Your message

   To:      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: sorry, a quick test.
   Sent:    Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:44:01 +0100

did not reach the following recipient(s):

[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 15 Oct 2002 03:49:02 +0100
     The recipient name is not recognized
         The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=gb;a= ;p=kilmarnock
colle;l=WEBSERVER02101502494NV0H90M
     MSEXCH:IMS:Kilmarnock College:MAIL:WEBSERVER 0 (000C05A6) Unknown
Recipient

You figure it out. Crap like this is why VERP was invented...

great stuff!

barry, this bug is still here, though:

*** subscribe ***
Oct 14 19:51:02 2002 (6753) ahl: deleted [EMAIL PROTECTED]

*** smtp ***
Oct 14 19:51:05 2002 (6128) 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 1 recips, 
completed in 0.355 seconds
Oct 14 19:51:05 2002 (6128) 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 1 recips, 
completed in 0.304 seconds
Oct 14 19:51:34 2002 (6128) 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 1 recips, 
completed in 0.286 seconds

*** vette ***
Oct 14 19:51:33 2002 (6126) Precedence: bulk message ignored by: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

What's happening, Barry, is one part of Mailman is creating a message 
to let the admin know this guy was removed from the list, and then 
another part of Mailman is seeing the Precedence: Bulk header, and 
deleting it. so it's a message created and deleted within mailman 
without ever leaving the system, and the admin doesn't get notified. 
The message to the user confirming the unsubscription does work, since 
I see the bounce come back in later...



-- 
Chuq Von Rospach, Architech
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.plaidworks.com/chuqui/blog/

Very funny, Scotty. Now beam my clothes down here, will you?


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