>>>>> "JWB" == John W Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
SB> I've recently discovered that vacation autoresponders will
SB> subscribe recipients to Mailman lists when they get
SB> "invited".
JWB> Well, there are different needs for different Mailman sites.
JWB> If you have to convince your provider that every address in
JWB> your list truly wanted to be there, it's "unhandy" for there
JWB> to be such a simple example of involuntary subscription,
JWB> which the provider can demonstrate at will.
Exactly what constitutes "proof" from a legal context would be an
interesting discussion to have. At the spam conference, Jon Praed
gave a great talk about the spammers he's successfully sued, and the
fact that they might be going after bulk email software venders.
Now, clearly Mailman has legitimate uses, but I still think it would
be interesting to know what Mailman can do better to create logs that
would meet some legal standard of opt-in.
-Barry
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