On Wed, 2003-09-24 at 11:57, Greg Stark wrote: > I should not be removed from a mailing list purely on the basis of bounces of > uncontrolled messages. The messages that bounced could have been spam or > outlook worms or whatever.
In the default configuration, you won't be. You might get /disabled/ but you won't get removed, unless your MTA also bounces the 3 notices that Mailman sends out at regular intervals to warn disabled users of their subscription status. > Before removing a subscriber mailman should send a message with known content > testing the address. Only if such a message bounces should a user be dropped. That's what it does. The default is to send 3 notices over the course of 3 weeks. Each of those notices contains a url you need to click on to re-instate your subscription. We can't test for a negative (i.e. that the notices don't bounce) so you need to take explicit action to get re-enabled. > As it is I'm being removed from mailing lists whenever a new Outlook worm > appears and sends multiple messages in a row. Or a new spammer discovers a > list I'm on and sends multiple messages in a row to the list. > > It's especially bad on low-volume lists where it's quite possible for spam or > Outlook worm messages to be the only messages for days. Admins of low volume lists might want to change some of the bounce processing defaults. However, by default if a list gets no bounces from you in 7 days, it considers any previous bounce info to be stale and throws it away. So the list would need to get one bounce per day from you for 5 days in a row for you to get disabled. The other option I would suggest is that list owners start turning on personalization, in order to take advantage of VERP. I think it's harder to get spoof-disabled when VERP is enabled because then Mailman looks for the bouncing address in the encoded recipient header. But I'm open to specific suggestions for improvement. -Barry _______________________________________________ Mailman-Developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers