At 11:01 PM -0500 2003/10/29, Barry Warsaw wrote:

 Yep, and I really really want Mailman 3 to take this concept farther.
 Some things that I think will help include, using Twisted to eliminate
 the /requirement/ of Apache integration and possibly the incoming mail
 server integration, as well as implement a bulk mailer to eliminate the
 need for an outgoing mail server.

There, I have to disagree. Both the web server and the mail server issues are complex enough that I don't believe it would be a good idea to try and re-invent this wheel. There are already enough bad web server and mail server implementations out there -- we don't need to make this situation worse.


There may be some mailing-list specific issues that we can (and should) handle better inside mailman before we hand these things off to the other servers, but both Apache and postfix/sendmail/exim have enough experience and world-wide testing behind them to make it little else than folly resulting from hubris to try and replace them.

There's just no substitute for having hundreds of millions of people world-wide pounding on these things day-in and day-out 365 days a year.


Components like this should be scheduled for replacement if, and only if, you can demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt that there are inherent problems that are insurmountable otherwise, and there is no feasible alternative.


You don't just take a Tom Mix pocket knife and cut open your own chest and remove your heart, to replace it with a mechanical pump that you designed yourself out of a tin can, a turkey baster, some bailing wire, and some garden hose.

If you absolutely require a heart transplant and there are no human alternatives, you get a world-respected heart surgeon to perform the operation using the latest techniques and the Jaarvik 9 (or whatever). And then you get everyone in your family, all your friends, all your neighbors, all your church members, and hopefully all religious people world-wide to pray for you.

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