--On Tuesday, November 23, 2004 19:13:58 GMT -0800 Joe Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 10:42:24AM +0100, Brad Knowles wrote:If there were a way to effectively detect when a "Date:" header was wrong and when it was okay, then I might be willing to allow the system to correct the "Date:" header in those particular cases. If you've got a patch or additional code that can do that, I'd like to see it, although I can't promise it would be accepted by the Mailman developers for inclusion in an upcoming version.
I can't speak for Barry, Tokio, or the other Mailman developers, but I would be violently opposed to a change of this sort.
Out of curiosity, am I overlooking something or are we over-generalizing the solution?
My straw man (which may be wildly under-educated) is that we have no need at all to modify any headers, but instead to ignore the Date: header entirely for archive and digest purposes. Leave the Date header there, but don't use it. Instead use time of receipt.
Now, go grab a 2x4 and clue me in...
Hmm, I think that this whole conversation is not seeing the wood for the trees. Why would anyone want to sort a list by date? The date of a posting isn't really relevant except:
1. So that we can understand the currency of the information. For example, I don't want to be reading 1998 postings if I'm looking for information on the latest version of - say - Apache. For that it doesn't matter much that a date might be a few hours out.
2. Location in a conversational thread. It is important to read threads in order. For that, the important thing is the time that the email was sent, not the time that it arrived - which may differ by minutes, hours or days. However, the better solution is to sort by threads using in-reply-to headers. Google's gmail, and Apple's Mail application do this nicely.
I think that development focus should be on displaying threads properly, not on "fixing" dates that the system can't possibly know are right or wrong.
-- Ian Eiloart Servers Team Sussex University ITS
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