On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 08:54, Tobias Eigen wrote: > It's really weird to have to log in > multiple times to access multiple list settings, especially if it's the > same password being used everywhere. It's likewise weird to then be > able to make "global" changes from one list's preferences page.
There's no question that this is a major usability issue, but it's a result of an ancient architectural decision that is difficult to fix and not backwards compatible. > Has > anybody considered having a usability expert look at the Mailman > interfaces and redesign them so they make more sense from a user's > point of view? How easy is it to customize these pages? Are they > perchance templatable? Not easily. One of the goals of MM3 is to make the u/i fully templated. I certainly make no claims to web u/i artistry, and there have been a few attempts over the years to improve things, but no one with the expertise has stepped forward and owned the task of doing this. I'd welcome it though. > And we're only talking about the frontend (listinfo interface) here > now, not even the backend (admin interface) for list owners. The > backend is so incredibly complex and overwhelming that it has become a > serious stumbling block for us in offering a service that people will > actually use. I agree. Somehow we need to make the admin interface much simpler, without sacrificing the important features that (some) people will need. It's a challenge. I actually think that list styles will help a lot here. > For Kabissa these interfaces have to be as easy to use as > Yahoo Groups or Google (has anyone tried Google's groups? They are > quite nifty actually). We have people coming online from all over > Africa who pay dearly for every precious minute they spend online. I hear you. -Barry
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