On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 22:05 -0600, Brad Knowles wrote:

>       For the larger ones, I'd like to see something like Skip's 
> "mmfold.py" script that could run locally on the same server where 
> the lists are located, so that no use of a web browser is required, 
> and so that the program could directly access the Python pickles in 
> question.  That would make it a lot easier for me to manage some of 
> the lists on the other main site where I volunteer.

I'm actually thinking we need /less/ magic in command line scripts,
especially for typical user and admin tasks, because I think
increasingly, fewer people have access to the command line (or know what
to do with it when they've got it).

>       The admindb interface is one thing that needs improvement.  But 
> I'd also like to see alternatives we could use that completely avoid 
> the use of any web browser, etc....

I'm keen on the idea of making Mailman access available via xmlrpc or
somesuch, and then we can provide scripts that can be run on the client
w/o requiring a browser.

>       IMAP would probably be an improvement over what we have now, 
> assuming you've got a decent IMAP client -- that's not necessarily a 
> valid assumption.  But my experience is that IMAP falls down too 
> (especially depending on the IMAP server implementation), and you 
> need something even scalable when that happens.

True.  (Aside: why do all mail clients suck so much? :)

-Barry

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