On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, Brad Knowles wrote:

> At 4:54 PM +0100 2006-06-08, David Lee wrote:
>
> >  To the average non-techie managerial type, what terminology (Authorised?
> >  Authenticated? etc.) is preferable?
>
>       I think that the authentication thing is a red herring.  Stick to
> the original idea and make relatively minimal modifications to the
> code, and let Barry, Tokio, Mark, and others deal with the deeper
> technical and architectural issues that Ian is raising.
>
> >  That would, indeed, probably be the ideal.  But that would itself mean
> >  that all paths by which the Mailman machine might be reached would have to
> >  be known to have an enforced mechanism for authenticated SMTP.  (And what
> >  about (say) "cron" jobs generating email which might legitimately go
> >  through lists?)
>
>       Which is part of why you shouldn't worry about trying to solve
> this problem.  With your original concept, you're not really opening
> any new security holes, and you shouldn't have to worry about trying
> to close those that already exist.
>
>       Just make sure that you put in the appropriate cleanup code into
> place to remove the headers in question, as is done today for the
> "Approved:" header.

Thanks, Brad, for this and your previous emails.  Your have nicely grasped
both sides:

(1) that this piece of string could be very long, and is an issue
primarily for the Mailman development gurus in a global and relatively
long timescale, context;

(2) that my own particular per-sender password proposal is intended to be
a small, self-contained thing, modelled on the existing "Approved:", and
with a very similar set of security issues (positive and negative), in a
local, short timescale, context.

It's giving me the confidence to go ahead on this item, but I hope to keep
in mind compatibility with (anticipation of) possible future developments.

Thanks again.


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