>
>I believe that the W3C standards require that Javascript and other components 
>fail gracefully, so the point could be made, for things link Lynx and Links 
>that a graceful degrade would also take care of us screen reader users.  
>Anything specific you write for us, while appreciated, is also something that 
>may have to be kept up separately, and thus may not be.
>
>Dave
>
>At 01:06 PM 7/4/2006, you wrote:
>>Brad Knowles wrote:
>>
>>> Speaking only for myself, this is not the kind of approach I'd like to see
>>> used.  I'd prefer to see the web application auto-detect that JavaScript
>>> is not available, and therefore to automatically present the appropriate
>>> non-JavaScript interface. 
>>
>>I will do this for browsers not employing JavaScript. Screen readers 
>>employ JavaScript and provide no indication what they do/do not provide 
>>feedback to the user for.
>>
>>> Likewise, it should auto-detect that there is a
>>> screen reader being used, and present the appropriate screen reader
>>> compatible interface.
>>
>>This is an admirable goal. One "screen reader" in semi-common use is IE 
>>6 via Jaws; another one is Safari with OS X reading turned on.
>>
>>They present to me no handle, user-agent or otherwise, indicating 
>>they're being spoken rather than seen.
>>
>>> Of course, the manual options should always be there, but if we're forcing
>>> the user to manually select a different page in order to get away from the
>>> JavaScript stuff, then I think we're doing something wrong.
>>
>>I agree that it is an Ugly Hack; In this case I think the screen readers 
>>are misbehaved, but there's not a lot I can do about that.
>>
>>~ethan fremen
>>
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